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Originally posted by rolshans View PostI think a more accurate number is 20M pounds, which is (without doing the calculations) around 27.5M USD.
But yeah, if Wilder takes home 20M USD, he still won't be the A-side, but a 55-45 split becomes feasible.
At $26 US (19.99 UK), thats a gross of $37.882 Million.
Cable companies take 55%, leaving $17.047 Million.
AJ got 67% of that, which is about $11.43 Million.
The gate was 10.4 Million, 67% of that is @ 7 Million.
I think 18M US is about right as his largest payday (20M if you throw in other crap like foreign TV rights, etc), nevermind all the fairytales some folks like to tell.
Both Wilder and Fury have a real chance to top that in December, tho it may just as well flop. Right now, it looks like they have a shot.
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Originally posted by Sid-Knee View PostWilder doesn't make any money outside of Fury, Whyte and Joshua. So no, Wilder isn't going to become a big money maker. The 40 fights he's had proves that. But get him an opponent, then he'll sell a bit. But not without those dancing partners.
Joshua, the unified champion with Fury's belts, currently lost in DAZN after running from a $50+ million guarantee to fight Wilder, makes sense....
But Whyte? In the US??????
Whyte, beaten by Joshua and barely surviving Parker
Whyte, refusing to fight Ortiz who YOU say is washed up, which would GUARANTEE a fight with Wilder
Whyte, who won't even accept the challenge from Breazeale to replace him as the WBC mandatory
Whyte?
What's up with Whyte?
Why are you and Hearn always pushing WHYTE???
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Originally posted by New England View Posthow does wilder have a better resume than tyson fury?
ranking and resume are different things! you're f#cking nuts if you think wilder's resume, in which his best two wins are bermaine stiverne and going life and death with luis ortiz, holds a candle to the dude who beat wlad klitshcko in 2015 and became the lineal HW champion of the world.
f#cking nuts
As for Wilder, he has two wins over consensus top 3 or 4 fighters. Fury has one big win and then vanished. In recent years, Wilder has been knocking out legitimate contenders left and right while Fury has been inactive or fighting lower level fighters.
If you believe Fury has done more than Wilder, you're entitled to your opinion. I don't argue opinions. They're fighting December 1 and may the best man win.
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostYou can't have it both ways. Does the guy only fight bums and avoid risk or not? Because when he was trying to get Povetkin in the ring, it was Povetkin violating WBC orders and taking other fights to delay the Wilder fight.
If he only fights bums, why is he #2 in Boxrec by such a wide margin? That would be impossible if he was only feasting on bums.
Be consistent.
Where did I mention here that he fought bums? I just said he doesn't deserve the plaudits for fighting a Mando in a purse he lost?
You need a lie down or something?
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Originally posted by Motorcity Cobra View PostYou're talking about how fast tickets sold out, right? You know that was stubhub. When Wembley put a stop to that not only did the tickets not sell out in 10 minutes there were also less tickets sold.
Tickets took longer to sell absolutely .. mainly because it wasn't a wilder fight. The tickets that didn't sell were coach tickets..which is a requisite put in place by transport for London to ease congestion in the capital. Coach tickets are also allocation of club Wembley.. nothing to do with StubHub.
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Originally posted by yammy25 View PostI don't remember me saying he fought bums in this thread in order to constitute that reply?
And you say, well, Povetkin was a mandatory. So? People duck mandatories all the time. If Wilder wasn't willing to take challenges, why would he take that challenge? You and I both know Wilder hasn't only fought bums. There's no way to reach #2 in boxrec only fighting bums.
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostBoxrec ratings are based purely on who you beat, who they beat, etc. There's no opinion involved. Wilder has twice as many points as anybody other than AJ, so it makes absolutely no sense to claim Wilder has only faced bums. Clearly that isn't true.
As for Wilder, he has two wins over consensus top 3 or 4 fighters. Fury has one big win and then vanished. In recent years, Wilder has been knocking out legitimate contenders left and right while Fury has been inactive or fighting lower level fighters.
If you believe Fury has done more than Wilder, you're entitled to your opinion. I don't argue opinions. They're fighting December 1 and may the best man win.
Have you seen Wilder's Boxrec p4p rating? #29. #29! For a guy who's been a beltholder for 3 years and made 7 title defenses. What does that tell you about the quality of his opposition? But I give him credit for stepping up now against Fury. (Even if it took him 41 fights to do it)
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Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View PostI never said you said that. Maybe you should read threads before replying to them. I was responding to the argument that Wilder only fights bums and isn't willing to take challenges. If that was true, he wouldn't have flown overseas for Povetkin. He wouldn't have made a voluntary against Ortiz. He wouldn't be #2 on boxrec.
And you say, well, Povetkin was a mandatory. So? People duck mandatories all the time. If Wilder wasn't willing to take challenges, why would he take that challenge? You and I both know Wilder hasn't only fought bums. There's no way to reach #2 in boxrec only fighting bums.
You keep mentioning him being boxrec number 2.. and that I somehow inckinated he only fights bums..I haven't said anything about his ranking or class of opponent lol. I'll say again ... More people fight mandos than duck them.
My whole point to you is wilder doesn't deserve plaudits for taking his mandatory. The people that duck theres out of fear of being beat deserve hate.
I stated he didn't duck because it would have ruined any spotlight and legitimacy he had garnered from winning over stiverne.
I'm not talking about drugs and whatever from povetkin. He lost the purse and accepted the fight long before that came about... And defending your belt against a mandatory challenger doesn't deserve plaudits .
If you want to go and argue about Wilders resume or opponents . Go an argue with someone who is actually calling his ranking and opponent level into question.
Melt.
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