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  • #91
    Originally posted by alexjust View Post
    Just stop it, just don't, that's a lie and you know it about Mexican fans burning GGG's clothing. A few idiots do not define thousands of Mexicans who supported and still support GGG. You are making a rule out of exception.

    In your own words it seems that only 10% of Mexicans appreciate the pure sport side of boxing, not the glamour or money. These are the 10% who support GGG. 90% support the diva of Mexican boxing. Kardashian has more followers than Neil De Grass Tyson. What else is new in the world?
    Stop your crying. idiots like you overstated GGG's mexican fanbase from day 1 pretending like Canelo and GGG had similar backing with Mexicans. That was a lie and GGG's PPV numbers prove that. But whatever you think his Mexican fanbase was it's fewer today after Canelo whooped his azzz Mexican Style. Mexicans who did cheer for GGG booed his azzz as he ran like a bytch to the showers, then burned his gear and screamed "Chinga tu Madred GGG" outside T-Mobile there is videos of fans who didn't have the decency to torch their GGG gear before jumping into chants mocking GGG while still wearing GGG hats LMAO

    Canelo won the battle and the war. Took GGG's balls, his belts and stomped on his Mexican Style bs claim. Because it's literally impossible for that Fraud to ever play the Mexican Style card to promote a fight ever again. He went from Mexican Style to Nothing But Scared Jab Style real quick. LMAO

    Last edited by bigdunny1; 10-01-2018, 09:14 AM.

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    • #92
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34 View Post
      Oh I see how it is, I’m speaking to a proverbial casual who somehow thinks he knows what’s boxing is all about!

      Let me school you a bit shall I, there are 3 judges and they all score on the criteria of 4 different factors!

      Those factors are as listed...

      Defense

      Ring generalship

      Effective punches

      Effective aggression

      Canelo had the better defense obviously(I mean just look at his face, I guess common sense will tell that your defense will show by the end of the fight so take a look at Canelo’s and ggg’s and try not to fan over it too much ggg fanboy), he backed ggg majority of the fight so he had the more effective aggression!

      His game plan was obviously to take the fight to ggg and keep it at phone booth or mid range but mainly on the inside which is what he did, Canelo was the boss in there and did what he wanted which is what ring generalship is!

      You following kid?, ok, cool now ggg may have a case in effective punches cuz he’s a hard puncher and he had the 3 hardest punches in the entire fight but Canelo landed more power shots so it’s either you give it to the guy who landed the hardest shot of the nite or the guy who landed more of the harder shots of the nite!

      I’ll be generous cuz to ggg cuz he did buzzed Canelo for a few secs and give him that!

      So, out of the 4 scoring criteria’s to judge a fight you would give Canelo 3-1 or possibly even 4-0!

      Ggg was not the boss in there, fighting off the back foot is not his game! He did well but it’s not his game plan as his own trainer said that the game plan was to fight Canelo or make him fight by coming forward but Canelo flipped the script and came forward and brought the fight to Golovkin who went on his bike which yes, it means go on your back foot and retreat to get more distance which is what Golovkin exactly did in couple of the rounds!

      No matter what you ggg fanboys say, the truth is in the pudding and the fact is Golovkin’s own trainer said ggg derived from their game plan and said they were losing in the 7th and they needed the 12th and he said ggg gave up the 12th which I agree!

      You don’t win fights by just jabs and landing one hard punch per round in the last 3 rounds!

      If you were going out on a date with a nice looking woman who would you rather be post fight, Canelo or ggg? 🤕

      See, common sense isn’t that common and your proving that for me right now, which is fine but it’s why I had to discipline you and school you on how to score fights properly!

      This isn’t the amateurs where you simply land even touch shots then the guy who just touches or just simply lands wins, it’s about who controlled the fight and who did more damage and even Stevie Wonder could see that Canelo did what he wanted which was take the fight to ggg while displaying the superior defense and bodywork while landing more of the harder shots!

      These are facts which is what the judges saw, don’t be mad cuz you thought you knew what you were talking about but I had to correct you!

      Just be mad at hbo for leading you onto believe ggg won, only casuals believe what hbo commentators say like it’s gospel!

      I recommend you find another sport to watch cuz this isn’t for you, maybe dodgeball or golf is more of your thing!

      🤫
      you wrote a whole lot of nothing and everything you stated was subjective. Canelo may have fancier defense which is more eye catching but what good is that if you're always getting outlanded by your opponent? Ring generalship - ggg controlled most of the fight with his jab and landed it at will. Effective punches - again, eye catching doesn't mean effective. Did Canelo drop or hurt ggg? Who seemed to have gotten hurt in the fight? Power punches is any punch that's not a jab. If you know boxing like you think you do, you should know that not every power punch lands with actual power. The most consistent punch in the fight was gggs jab which landed consistently over and over again. Not the occasional power punch that landed here and there by either fighter. Effective aggression should also be the more active fighter who lands more punches. So your feabile attempt to crown Canelo as a clear winner fails. Maybe you should step off the tennis court and trying setting foot in a ring and then maybe you'll have a clearer understanding of the sport.

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      • #93
        Originally posted by bigdunny1 View Post
        Stop your crying. idiots like you overstated GGG's mexican fanbase from day 1 pretending like Canelo and GGG had similar backing with Mexicans. That was a lie and GGG's PPV numbers prove that. But whatever you think his Mexican fanbase was it's fewer today after Canelo whooped his azzz Mexican Style. Mexicans who did cheer for GGG booed his azzz as he ran like a bytch to the showers, then burned his gear and screamed "Chinga tu Madred GGG" outside T-Mobile there is videos of fans who didn't have the decency to torch their GGG gear before jumping into chants mocking GGG while still wearing GGG hats LMAO

        Canelo won the battle and the war. Took GGG's balls, his belts and stomped on his Mexican Style bs claim. Because it's literally impossible for that Fraud to ever play the Mexican Style card to promote a fight ever again. He went from Mexican Style to Nothing But Scared Jab Style real quick. LMAO

        Wow, you are taking it so personally...Easy, tigress, you'll get yourself a heart attack by 22 with that attitude.



        Idiot - is the one who is burning a t-shirt with the name of somebody he supported 40 minutes ago. Another idiot is the one who is chanting in support of the first kind of an idiot.

        And I'm lost at what point you were trying to make...But very emotional, very emotional, well done! When sense is replaced by emotion - that's a clear path to be a politician

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        • #94
          Originally posted by alexjust View Post
          Wow, you are taking it so personally...Easy, tigress, you'll get yourself a heart attack by 22 with that attitude.



          Idiot - is the one who is burning a t-shirt with the name of somebody he supported 40 minutes ago. Another idiot is the one who is chanting in support of the first kind of an idiot.

          And I'm lost at what point you were trying to make...But very emotional, very emotional, well done! When sense is replaced by emotion - that's a clear path to be a politician
          Why would I be upset the guy I told you would win won and beat up GGG Mexican Style to do it. You the one crying trying to make excuses for why Mexicans turned on GGG after the fight and were burning his shyt LMAO

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          • #95
            Originally posted by Jab jab boom View Post
            you wrote a whole lot of nothing and everything you stated was subjective. Canelo may have fancier defense which is more eye catching but what good is that if you're always getting outlanded by your opponent? Ring generalship - ggg controlled most of the fight with his jab and landed it at will. Effective punches - again, eye catching doesn't mean effective. Did Canelo drop or hurt ggg? Who seemed to have gotten hurt in the fight? Power punches is any punch that's not a jab. If you know boxing like you think you do, you should know that not every power punch lands with actual power. The most consistent punch in the fight was gggs jab which landed consistently over and over again. Not the occasional power punch that landed here and there by either fighter. Effective aggression should also be the more active fighter who lands more punches. So your feabile attempt to crown Canelo as a clear winner fails. Maybe you should step off the tennis court and trying setting foot in a ring and then maybe you'll have a clearer understanding of the sport.



            even Abel Sanchez admitted that Golovkin did not win

            Canelo won the rematch, he backed-up and then beat-up a supposed killer

            Jabkin got on his bike after demanding that Canelo stand and fight like a Mexican..... which is fkn hilarious

            the real Mexican beat the fake Mexican





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            • #96
              Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Post
              even Abel Sanchez admitted that Golovkin did not win

              Canelo won the rematch, he backed-up and then beat-up a supposed killer

              Jabkin got on his bike after demanding that Canelo stand and fight like a Mexican..... which is fkn hilarious

              the real Mexican beat the fake Mexican





              so by saying he's not going to complain about the decision now means he's acknowledging he lost? Stop fishing. He acknowledged it was a close fight that went the other way on the scorecards. It's crazy how little Canelo fans know about boxing but that's mainly because for all of the Mexican history in boxing, it's fans are usually unathletic losers who would piss themselves if they ever set foot in a ring. Ggg never touched the ropes, he never moved around the ring, he controlled Canelo with the most important punch in boxing, the jab, and circled him. For all the hype y'all put on Canelo, the guy couldn't stop a jab from a guy y'all called a caveman with no boxing skills. A 28 yr old got out worked by a 36 yr old and you guys celebrate like it was sugar ray knocking out hearns. That's why you make up the most pathetic group of fans in boxing right now.

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              • #97
                Originally posted by CubanGuyNYC View Post
                Yeah, I can’t say, because I really don’t know for sure, but I always got the impression Canelo was a big star in his country. The notion that Mexicans don’t embrace him because he’s not darker seems off to me. If anything, his complexion makes him even more popular.
                Originally posted by TheCell8 View Post
                I doubt that. If anything he'd be more reviled. Mexicans worship Spaniards more than their indigenous population. Even though Mexicans are majority Mestizos, half indigenous half white, they'll side with their white side. If you watch telenovela, or listen to their music, literally all the big entertainers are White(Spanish), those that look like Canelo not those that look like Erik Morales.
                Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
                It's just the opposite. Canelo was treated like the second coming by the people of Mexico BECAUSE of his White skin when he was on the rise. They love that about him. Anyone that's spent time inside Mexico knows that colorism is in full effect in that country. The fairer you are the better. Canelo was given a massive boost because of his White appearance in Mexico. Duran has no clue.

                Sorry fellas but Roberto Duran is speaking the truth here. Canelo would be more loved he wasn't a gringo.

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                • #98
                  Originally posted by Santa_ View Post
                  Sorry fellas but Roberto Duran is speaking the truth here. Canelo would be more loved he wasn't a gringo.
                  Then why was everyone in Mexico swinging on his nuts like he was the greatest thing that ever happened when he was just getting by the likes of Jose Miguel Cotto and Mathew Hatton?? No, sorry, I've been in Mexico around this culture and they love Whiteness as much as any non-White group on Earth. No chance, bucky.

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                  • #99
                    Originally posted by Santa_ View Post
                    Sad but true.

                    Canelo would get more love down there if he was darker like Morales or Barrera.
                    I think there could be some truth in this but he also doesn’t act like the stereotypical Mexican dude. He has what some call “fresa” to his personality. I think is more about thatthan being lighter skin.

                    Barrera was actually a bit of a fresca too but I think he achieved and got the fame. Some people feel Canelo got the fame before the achievement. I think many Mexicans in Mexico didn’t like DLH because of his personality too.

                    But whatever one may think now the guy has more than proved his metal. I thought he lost the last fight but was a warrior in the ring.

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                    • Originally posted by A-Wolf View Post
                      Then why was everyone in Mexico swinging on his nuts like he was the greatest thing that ever happened when he was just getting by the likes of Jose Miguel Cotto and Mathew Hatton?? No, sorry, I've been in Mexico around this culture and they love Whiteness as much as any non-White group on Earth. No chance, bucky.
                      With women much more so. I don’t think it is as strong with men.

                      Definitely though the darker your skin the more racism you we will see. Being light skin has clear advantages. Just turn on the TV and you will swear that the county is 90% white.

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