Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

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  • Tyistall
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    #81
    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
    Thank you for your opinion.

    Stiverne and Ortiz were both considered top 3 fighters by the world's leading experts when Wilder beat them. AJ has never fought a consensus top 3 fighter.

    AJ is a great fighter, I have him ranked #1 at heavyweight for a reason. But his handlers have conveniently avoided the biggest punchers in the division. As they should. Wilder went out of his way to target Ortiz, just to challenge and prove himself. That should be applauded.
    Seriously, I'm starting to think that you are slow or something. Wilder has fought all bums outside of the first Stiverne fight and Ortiz. And he isn't "stepping up" to fight Fury, he's trying to catch him while he's down. Stop mentioning Ortiz (who was 39 and on heart medication) and start talking about Areolla, Washington and Szpilka. Wilder fought guys that were ranked in the 100's in the world regularly before he got a title shot. Then after he won, he fought guys ranked in the 30'sto 50's. That's why he gets no %. That's why he doesn't make much per fight and that's why he's an overrated, protected fraud who beats bums. If you saw a guy waling down the street hitting bums on the corner, would you be impressed??!?! No, you'd be annoyed and you would tell him to stop beating up bums. Same with Wilder

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    • Boksfan
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      #82
      70/30 AJ is fair, no rematch for Wilder. Any real boxing fan knows it's more than fair.

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      • davefromvancouv
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        #83
        Originally posted by Sid-Knee
        When you have a money man against someone who isn't close to being a money man, and you think they should split it down the middle, then these are the reasons fights don't get made. Too much delusion by far. What you're supposing doesn't even make any ****ing sense. Any business man would laugh in your face at how crazy and deluded you really are.
        Wilder will be the new money man if his fight with Fury does well, but he won't treat Joshua the same way. He will propose a 50/50 split to RESPECT the fact that Joshua is a champion. Fury will be the same way if he beats Wilder. Hell, that's how Wilder-Fury got made in the first place! Once Joshua develops that mindset, wanting to challenge himself against primed fighters, wanting to be undisputed, instead of flexing his muscle as the money man, we'll have an undisputed fight. Until then, Joshua will go his way and Wilder and Fury will go theirs. No worries... The heavyweight lineage will be in good hands...

        But Joshua is preventing this fight from happening, disrespecting his fellow champions with this A-side/B-side nonsense.

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          #84
          Originally posted by Sid-Knee
          He gets his "Knowledge" from the same place you get yours.
          He's going by commission filings, which Showtime and all the fighters have admitted are bogus. Do you or do you not believe Cotto was only paid 750k for his retirement fight?


          Joshua gets paid a lot more money than is advertised. Just like Wilder does, hey?
          Please show us what Joshua's filed purse with the government is.

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            #85
            Originally posted by Sid-Knee
            What did Ortiz and Stiverne do to be top 3 fighters? Your reply will be comical.
            Ask all of the world's leading experts. I have no obligation to defend another man's opinion. I don't argue opinions, and I rarely offer mine.

            The fact is that Wilder has two wins over consensus top three fighters. Joshua doesn't have any. So even though Joshua's resume is stronger over all, it's hilarious when AJ fans say Wilder hasn't fought anybody considering Wilder is the only one of the two that has faced top 3 fighters.

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            • Pigeons
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              #86
              Wilder would be an idiot to accept anything less than 45%.

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                #87
                Originally posted by Tyistall
                Wilder has fought all bums outside of the first Stiverne fight and Ortiz.
                Even if that was true, that's still two top 3 wins while AJ has none.


                Stop mentioning Ortiz (who was 39 and on heart medication)
                You're lying. Povetkin was 39 when AJ fought him. Ortiz wasn't 39 when Wilder fought him.

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                • asotgod123
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                  #88
                  It is pitiful how AJ's delusional fans want him to get over 60% of the profit when the PPV in the UK will be based on AJ fighting Wilder and the PPV in the US is also solely based on Wilder. No one knows AJ in the US. Wilder is more known in the UK than AJ is in the US. Greed will kill people ultimately.

                  The fight should be 50/50. Wilder is the longest reigning champion and if he beats Fury will be the linear champion. AJ got the Parker belt because Parker avoided Wilder. AJ got the WBA belt because they paid Ortiz to step aside and got it in the fight against an aged Wlad. Those are the facts - however his delusional fans seem to side-step how he got the belts. Even the IBF, he overpaid Charles Martin. Why did he not wait as the WBC #2 to fight Wilder?

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                  • Tyistall
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
                    Even if that was true, that's still two top 3 wins while AJ has none.




                    You're lying. Povetkin was 39 when AJ fought him. Ortiz wasn't 39 when Wilder fought him.
                    Povetkin is top 3 right now and AJ just beat him. Also, you are right, Ortiz isn't 39...he's closer to 45 hahahah. Stop defending this bum beater, he's a fraud

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                    • Boksfan
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by Tyistall
                      Povetkin is top 3 right now and AJ just beat him. Also, you are right, Ortiz isn't 39...he's closer to 45 hahahah. Stop defending this bum beater, he's a fraud
                      Wildher fought back to back 39 years old Stiverne and 39 years old Ortiz (officially). Sure he deserves at least 50% if he fights Mayweather next.

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