Joshua V Wilder: What do YOU think would be fair?

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  • Boksfan
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    #101
    Originally posted by that g
    there's a first time for everything. the fact that it's never been doesn't mean it will never be.
    also the idea of having a victory purse or reward is not unheard of. the winner always takes any belts on the line.
    No until boxing is owned by one big promoter.

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      #102
      Originally posted by SeGoodland
      I, and a lot of others, disagree that Ortiz and Stiverne are top 3 fighters so you can stick your consensus up your ass.
      Thankfully, uneducated amateurs with zero knowledge or experience aren't the ones who get to determine the major independent ratings.

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        #103
        Originally posted by Laligalaliga
        I will appreciate if you acknowledge that at fight 30, wilder was still fighting retired Manchester United players ranked above 50 and earning far below 1mil.
        That's all I need from you Bro.
        I have no idea if that's true, but if it is, who cares? Everybody fights tomato cans as they climb the ranks and jockey for position in hopes for a title shot.

        Wilder had next to no amateur background, started boxing late in life, clearly had very little technical skill, etc. If his handlers wanted him to have 200 fights before he fought for the title, that's their prerogative. Doesn't change the fact that he's beaten two consensus top 3 guys while AJ has beaten zero.
        Last edited by N/A; 09-27-2018, 12:08 PM.

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        • N/A
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          #104
          Originally posted by Tyistall
          Povetkin is top 3 right now and AJ just beat him.
          The world's leading experts had Ortiz rated higher than Povetkin before Povetkin's recent loss.

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          • Laligalaliga
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            #105
            Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF
            I have no idea if that's true, but if it is, who cares? Everybody fights tomato cans as they climb the ranks and jockey for position in hopes for a title shot.

            Wilder had next to know amateur background, started boxing late in life, clearly had very little technical skill, etc. If his handlers wanted him to have 200 fights before he fought for the title, that's their prerogative. Doesn't change the fact that he's beaten two consensus top 3 guys while AJ has beaten zero.
            Who are the top 3 guys please?

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              #106
              Originally posted by Laligalaliga
              Who are the top 3 guys please?
              When Deontay Wilder was the WBC mandatory, WBC world champion Bermane Stiverne was #2 in the rankings of Ring Magazine, ESPN and countless others.

              When Deontay Wilder was WBC world champion, Luis Ortiz was #3 in most heavyweight rankings as well.

              So while Joshua has a better overall resume than Wilder, due to Wilder facing more top 10 opponents, Wilder should be given credit for facing and beating, on multiple occasions, one of the absolute best in the world. Thus far, Joshua has beaten a lot of top fighters, he just hasn't faced one of the absolute best yet.

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              • Raggamuffin
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                #107
                Tell that scared shivering stiff stoic coward to man up and fight Wilder. **** are we talking about flat fee for? They won’t negotiate in good faith because they’re scared lmao. This is unprecedented frfr.

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                • 4truth
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                  #108
                  Before Wilder fights Fury I'm thinking 33%, same as was reported Parker got. After Fury, I'm thinking 40%.

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                  • Raggamuffin
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                    #109
                    And y’all can talk this “better resume” crap and that “Joshua’s done more in 19 fights crap” but wtf does that have to do with making the Wilder fight? In December Wilder will have the better resume if he wins.

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                    • Marchegiano
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                      #110
                      Originally posted by Sid-Knee
                      Did all the A side Americans in history give their overseas opponents neutral territory?

                      Exactly.
                      Sounds vindictive, like a woman, and not in the least an attempt at fair.

                      How is it Wilder's fault Lennox fought is America? You're not unfairly blaming Wilder for a past he had nothing to with?

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