Comments Thread For: Wilder's Team Have 'No Desire' For New Meeting on Joshua Deal

[doom_specialist]

But you posted what Higgins (Parkers promoter) said as evidence.

Because it's been corroborated and reported to the media. Try typing in "Parker Joshua split" and note how many sites cite the same thing, over and over. Then type in "Hearn revised contact Wilder" and notice how nothing about what he said in that video pops up lol. I'm not trying to be skeptical, but I can't help it when something looks untrue. Parker's split is very old news, so I didn't even expect him to challenge the number, but I guess information spreads slower in some areas.

Of course none of this even gets to the other glaring issue, which is that Hearn wants this alleged new contact agreed to BEFORE FURY. So many issues you guys want people to forget about lol

[The plunger man]

You ask for proof, and I provide it. Your turn now. Anybody from team Wilder corroborating what Hearn said, since his promoter is saying the exact opposite.

https://www.boxingscene.com/joshua-h...ght-uk--128489

Joshua and his handlers recently sent over a guaranteed offer of $50 million to persuade Joshua to take the fight in the United States.

While Joshua was initially skeptical of the high offer, Hearn confirmed that it's legitimate and the money is there.

Even with $50 million on the table, Joshua is willing to make less money in order to face Wilder in the UK.

https://********/iw89Q9tWd98 there u go you fool ..now be quiet and let the big boys talk

[Bronx2245]

And it doesn't have to be before the Dec 1 fight. If there is a chance that it could be, maybe Hearn should start by offering a percentage. Since he has acknowledged 1. Wilder deserves a bigger share if he beats Fury and 2. The deal is contingent on Wilder beating Fury.

Hearn wants to negotiate before those Wilder vs. Fury numbers come in! If Wilder vs. Fury makes $10 million at the gate, and 500K+ PPVs, he can't offer $15M flat-fee or 30% splits! He has to come harder than that! That's why he wants to negotiate NOW! Al and Shelly aren't that ******!

[The plunger man]

But Hearn said the offer was real, right out of his lying lips, I guess.

if you call Hearn then it's right we call finkle a liar ...

[doom_specialist]

https://********/iw89Q9tWd98 there u go you fool ..now be quiet and let the big boys talk

I asked for something from Wilder's side corroborating Hearn's revised contract, and you sent ANOTHER YOUTUBE VIDEO OF HEARN explaining things. I asked for an official source, but I see I won't be receiving one. Couldn't even give a timestamp lol

[Froch_uppercut]

"We will never fight Joshua" is said nowhere in the article yet you used it in the title like it was a direct quote.

Also why not quote what was actually said

"I have sent three separate emails to Barry saying that I have no desire to meet with Barry unless I have a real offer for Wilder to meet Joshua," the WBC champion's representative Shelly Finkel told Sky Sports.

The gist of the article is that they won't meet unless there's a real offer. NOT that they'll never fight AJ. Are you that desperate to defend your icon you'll lie? Aren't you ashamed?

Problem is, using "real offer" makes it subjective. Meaning that Finkel can simply 'decide' not to fight by saying any offer is not a real one. There is only one side earnestly pursuing this fight, and it's the guy with the 4 belts. The guy fighting ALL the top names. The guy who actually wants to unify.
It's a good move by Wilder fighting fatty Fury though. Fury is easy work for either Wilder or AJ, and a win will strengthen Wilder's bargaining power (though it shouldn't).
I do believe the fight will get made. Only way it doesn't is if somehow Wilder decides he's the A side lol, which he might try simply as a way to duck.
Joshua is pissed off and will knock Wilder out quite easily.

[The plunger man]

I asked for something from Wilder's side corroborating Hearn's revised contract, and you sent ANOTHER YOUTUBE VIDEO OF HEARN explaining things. I asked for an official source, but I see I won't be receiving one. Couldn't even give a timestamp lol

have you sent me an official link as well...all I've had is what higgins is quoting and what Hearn has supposedly said...again send me an official link of proof of funds of that $50 million and the contract they sent.
Stop wasting my f@ckin time with your biased pro wilder bull**** and send me a real link to that offer

[Bronx2245]

I asked for something from Wilder's side corroborating Hearn's revised contract, and you sent ANOTHER YOUTUBE VIDEO OF HEARN explaining things. I asked for an official source, but I see I won't be receiving one. Couldn't even give a timestamp lol

You're wasting your time! Don't worry, the narrative has changed since AJ turned down $50 Million, and it continues today!

The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next
ESPN

April 16, 2018:

If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next


Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder next? Don't get your hopes up
ESPN

September 24, 2018:

"I want Deontay Wilder because that is the biggest fight in world boxing," Hearn said. "It would be the biggest fight in all-time British boxing history."

But saying it and making it are entirely different. Hearn said any deal must be done before Wilder-Fury on Dec. 1, which is going to make things even more difficult given that Wilder (and Fury, also a possible foe for a huge all-British showdown) will be focused on the task at hand. There's really no need to line up an April fight in December, so it seems like an artificial deadline that will cause the fight not to happen.

But Joshua, boxing's biggest global star, can tell Hearn what he wants. There is no need for such a deadline, and everyone knows it. Still, Joshua at least said the right things.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-your-hopes-up

[doom_specialist]

have you sent me an official link as well...all I've had is what higgins is quoting and what Hearn has supposedly said...again send me an official link of proof of funds of that $50 million and the contract they sent.
Stop wasting my f@ckin time with your biased pro wilder bull**** and send me a real link to that offer

They never sent a contract because Hearn rejected the offer before he ever saw one. I already sent you a link from this site regarding that. You must think BoxingScene is fake news lol.

Parker's split was reported by ESPN and BoxingScene among others, so I don't know what else you want. All I'm asking for is an official statement from anyone in Wilder's camp regarding this contract, and you can't give me anything but Hearn talking (without even a timestamp) yet I'm supposed to be the partisan lol. I'm over this.

[doom_specialist]

You're wasting your time! Don't worry, the narrative has changed since AJ turned down $50 Million, and it continues today!

The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next
ESPN

April 16, 2018:

If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next


Anthony Joshua vs. Deontay Wilder next? Don't get your hopes up
ESPN

September 24, 2018:

"I want Deontay Wilder because that is the biggest fight in world boxing," Hearn said. "It would be the biggest fight in all-time British boxing history."

But saying it and making it are entirely different. Hearn said any deal must be done before Wilder-Fury on Dec. 1, which is going to make things even more difficult given that Wilder (and Fury, also a possible foe for a huge all-British showdown) will be focused on the task at hand. There's really no need to line up an April fight in December, so it seems like an artificial deadline that will cause the fight not to happen.

But Joshua, boxing's biggest global star, can tell Hearn what he wants. There is no need for such a deadline, and everyone knows it. Still, Joshua at least said the right things.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...-your-hopes-up

I was aware that the conversation was going nowhere a couple of pages ago, but it's quite interesting to me to watch people lie for a person they've never known, who doesn't give 2 $h!ts about them. It's sad, but interesting lol