Comments Thread For: Incessant Sanctioning Silliness Prompts Alternative Crusade

[BattlingNelson]

IBF needs to go too. Their ranking system is trash

If you go rankings systems, the IBO is the way to go. The rest is trash and corrupt af not to mention that they don't rank other alphabet boys champions, which overtly makes their rankings a pile of rubbish.

[asgarth]

IBF needs to go too. Their ranking system is trash

it's only trash because the other organisations dont really care about mandatories and dont have a second day weighin.

If you as a boxer have the Option of A) fighting for WBA/WBC/WBO with an influential promoter, who can keep difficult mandatories out of the way or B) fight for IBF and actually have to face mandatories along the way.
Then You are going to choose A)

And because of that, less fighters are pursuing the IBF => the rankings are overall weaker.

Thats why IBF has sometimes really bad mandatories set in place, but I dont think it's really fair to lambast them for following their rules.

Let's criticize the WBC for protecting certain fighters, the WBA for being incompetent, greedy and corrupt or the WBO for being in bed with Arum and Warren.

[Eff Pandas]

The IBO belt is as bs as the rest of the belts & idk how a rational person could suggest its not in the same vein as the other groups.

Idk why power brokers of boxing don't join together & make boxing like every other sport outside of their own greed. You could easily have the top dozen or so promoters join together to make a league-like atmosphere where all fighters would have access to all other fighters with other promoters & it'd be like a NFL of boxing kinda setup that would have cats from all over the globe trying to get involved with it cuz it'd command the biggest money in the sport since it'd have the best guys (as a dozen or so promoters tend to got a lock on 90%+ of the top guys in boxing in the divisions that matter to most boxing fans).

From that point you can make a league title that would be THE TITLE in all of boxing & none of these ABC groups matter to real fans then.

Problem is good luck on getting these greedy f#cks in boxing realizing that a group approach would be less risky & have more upside for them year in & year out as boxing became more mainstream cuz boxing would make more sense to more people & the best fights to make would happen on a regular schedule for the first time in boxing history. But thats how you fix boxing & this insane title bs.

[Eff Pandas]

If you go rankings systems, the IBO is the way to go. The rest is trash and corrupt af not to mention that they don't rank other alphabet boys champions, which overtly makes their rankings a pile of rubbish.

The IBO rankings are as bs as the Boxrec rankings. Horn is the #3 147lber right now. Come on man do you buy that?

Granted I like them as a fan & follow prospects jumps up in class often via boxrec rankings, but you can't have computerized rankings in such a subjective scoring sport I don't believe. You need humans making calls on whats what.

But yea the ABC group rankings suck for other more corrupt reasons, but I believe both sides of the coin has flaws.

Personally I've taken it upon myself to only really give much credit to the TBRB rankings as I believe them to be the most legit rankings in the sport these days. Not to say they aren't problematic for other reasons (I feel like they got too much of a US & UK bend to them), but I do feel they are the less problematic rankings in the game today.

[gioberi]

No, what journalists need to do is to not recognize the WBA period.

There's no such thing as the "WBA regular title." It's the WBA world title. Made meaningless by their decision to also have WBA super titles. The super title shouldn't be recognized and the world title shouldn't be recognized anymore after 17 years of being beneath the super title.

But to insist that Povetkin wasn't world champion is factually incorrect. He was world champion. Held the same title as Ali and Tyson. The WBA will never get rid of the super titles instead fans and media stop recognizing ALL of their titles.

Its not what you call it, its what it is. And what it is is that so called super is a number one in their rankings and regular is number two. You cant say number one is no longer a champion because WBA decided to call him a super. Povetkin was always under Klitschko in WBA rankings and therefore never was a champion.

[Cigar]

What is this nonsense??? We need fewer belts in boxing, not more. Nobody, repeat NOBODY, should be recognizing the IBO!

[MC Hammer]

Since fighters are exclusive to their platforms Each platform should make their own belt and say screw the sanctioning bodies. Once a fighter in the glamour weights on PBC and ESPN make themselves known, then a joint PPV could be done to see who is the overall best.

It will be like the National League and American League used to be in MLB. This will give boxing a play off style system and more career security for fighters since will have to continually fight each other to move up the rankings for the one belt.

[N/A]

Its not what you call it, its what it is. And what it is is that so called super is a number one in their rankings and regular is number two.

There's no such thing as regular. Povetkin was the WBA world heavyweight champion. You are free to value that is much or as little as you want. Personally, I stopped recognizing the WBA when they introduced super championships and boxing would be much better off if everyone else had done the same.

You cant say number one is no longer a champion because WBA decided to call him a super.

And you can't say Machado is no longer a champion because the WBA decided later to gift Tank Davis a super title.

The point is that neither should be recognized. The WBA isn't worthy of being recognized as a major organization anymore. They've abused the privilege to the point that the privilege should be revoked.

Povetkin was always under Klitschko in WBA rankings and therefore never was a champion.

Povetkin was the WBA world heavyweight champion. We're in agreement that WBA world titles should be de-recognized. But if you want to solve the problem, you need to take it a step further and de-recognize the WBA entirely instead of trying to pretend that the super champion is in fact a world champion. He's not, not even the WBA says he is. The super champion is the super champion. The world champion is the world champion. De-recognize the WBA entirely and I guarantee you they'd get rid of the super titles overnight.

[famicommander]

I like the IBO rankings but they don't really matter when they just let random people fight for belts.

[famicommander]

The IBO rankings are as bs as the Boxrec rankings. Horn is the #3 147lber right now. Come on man do you buy that?

Granted I like them as a fan & follow prospects jumps up in class often via boxrec rankings, but you can't have computerized rankings in such a subjective scoring sport I don't believe. You need humans making calls on whats what.

But yea the ABC group rankings suck for other more corrupt reasons, but I believe both sides of the coin has flaws.

Personally I've taken it upon myself to only really give much credit to the TBRB rankings as I believe them to be the most legit rankings in the sport these days. Not to say they aren't problematic for other reasons (I feel like they got too much of a US & UK bend to them), but I do feel they are the less problematic rankings in the game today.

The IBO doesn't rank other champions, so Horn is ranked after Thurman, Crawford, Pacquiao, Spence, and Mbenge.