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  • hugh grant
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    #421
    Originally posted by aboutfkntime
    Canelo fought exactly the way Crykin wanted, and he still couldn't deal with him

    too much Mexican for the fake Mexican

    even Sanchez admitted that Golovkin either would not, or could not, shift up a gear and take it to Canelo

    they got exactly what they asked for, and they couldn't deal with it
    Ggg manipulated Nell to fighting Mexican so he could jab Nell a face off and it worked. Just like Garcia saying Pakistanis can't fight to Khan to manipulate Khan into fighting a certain way. Just like Floyd saying he would ko pac, so Pac expected Floyd to fight a certain way, and Floyd didnt.
    All it means is Nell dance s to Ggg tune. Ggg tells Nell what to do and Nell does it.

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      #422
      Originally posted by hugh grant
      Ggg manipulated Nell to fighting Mexican so he could jab Nell a face off and it worked. Just like Garcia saying Pakistanis can't fight to Khan to manipulate Khan into fighting a certain way. Just like Floyd saying he would ko pac, so Pac expected Floyd to fight a certain way, and Floyd didnt.
      All it means is Nell dance s to Ggg tune. Ggg tells Nell what to do and Nell does it.
      So it was Golovkins plan to embarrass himself? Some of the **** these guys make up.

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        #423
        Originally posted by aboutfkntime
        last time I checked, these were the ONLY valid scoring criteria....



        which of the ONLY valid scoring criteria was Golovkin superior ?

        people saying that Canelo beat Golovkin at his own game, or saying that Canelo lumped up Golovkin's face..... are not saying that is why he won the fight..... but, they are 100% correct..... and yep, you better believe that the judges also noticed those things

        which of the ONLY valid scoring criteria was Golovkin superior ?

        ummmmm, YES THEY ARE, maybe not you, but the general media/boxers/trainers that had Canelo winning, keep mentioning that Canelo "broke" Golovkin when in fact GGG was forced to fight another fight because Canelo stood his ground.


        since you keep bringing up the official scoring criteria, how about we use this scoring criteria and apply it to the first fight? im assuming you think he won the first fight as well?

        ring generalship? a guy running cannot win that argument
        effective aggression? ggg was the effective aggressor going forward whereas canelo would occasionaly throw when his back was on the ropes to get out of danger. defense? both were moving and slipping pretty well, maybe a slight edge to canelo. hard and cleaning punches? they were about even in power punches and golovkin doubled the jabs landed, people forget golovkin uses the jab in so many ways, the power jab he was throwing was pushing canelos head much more than a regular jab. nod to GGG.

        the point is the second fight was much close but i still had 7-5 golovkin. IMO, golovkin won both fights. the first fight was a blatant robbery and the second fight the money fighter got a house decision.

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          #424
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
          So it was Golovkins plan to embarrass himself? Some of the **** these guys make up.
          Ggg wanted Nel o easier to hit and he was this time. But Nell fans think Nell won on the basis Nell fought more Mexican than ggg?
          Don't think so. Ggg threw more and landed more. Nel o fans have to overanalyse to make a case for Nell winning

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            #425
            Originally posted by hugh grant
            Ggg wanted Nel o easier to hit and he was this time. But Nell fans think Nell won on the basis Nell fought more Mexican than ggg?
            Don't think so. Ggg threw more and landed more. Nel o fans have to overanalyse to make a case for Nell winning
            On the basis he landed more powerful punches. Him doing it fighting exactly how Golovkin dared him to and beating Golovkin at his own game, just makes it more sweet.

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              #426
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett
              On the basis he landed more powerful punches. Him doing it fighting exactly how Golovkin dared him to and beating Golovkin at his own game, just makes it more sweet.
              Ggg hits harder than Nell so Ggg punches were harder.
              Ggg beat Nell at Nel os game by outboxing nelo. He's outboard Nell twice.
              Last edited by hugh grant; 09-19-2018, 07:24 PM.

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                #427
                GGG never went after Canelo like he does other fighters. You have to wonder why. It’s because the counters were painful


                Had GGG fought Canelo like Kirkland did he would have gotten knocked out too.

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                  #428
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  this is not the amateurs kid, volume is not valid scoring criteria

                  Canelo got a clean sweep on the 4 official scoring criteria.....

                  which is why boxing insiders are saying that Canelo won, and you muppets are running around doing what you always do..... cry because your guy lost

                  Jabkin told Canelo to stand and fight like a Mexican..... but when Canelo obliged, Jabkin started getting his face rearranged by a REAL Mexican so he got on his bike









                  trust a Golovkin fan to have no clue how to score a fight

                  you casuals are embarrassing yourselves
                  So i guess the 34 people on press row which included boxers as well who scored it for ggg don't know how to score but the 2 who scored for canelo do? Leave it to a Mexican to only score in a biased way for the Mexican fighter. Have you ever even boxed? Surely you haven't.

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                  • Robbie Barrett
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                    #429
                    Originally posted by hugh grant
                    Ggg hits harder than Nell so Ggg punches were harder.
                    Ggg beat Nell at Nel os game by outboxing nelo.
                    It's OK hughie, i've known for a long time you live in cuckoo land. Most people saw Golovkin took the most punishment, even posters that scored for Golovkin agree that Golovkin took more punishment.

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                    • Robbie Barrett
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                      #430
                      Originally posted by Jab jab boom
                      So i guess the 34 people on press row which included boxers as well who scored it for ggg don't know how to score but the 2 who scored for canelo do? Leave it to a Mexican to only score in a biased way for the Mexican fighter. Have you ever even boxed? Surely you haven't.
                      Oh dear.

                      Bundrage



                      Truax



                      Trout



                      Ward



                      Linares



                      Murray



                      Shields



                      Khan



                      Haye



                      Foreman



                      Smith



                      Monroe



                      Mora



                      Plant



                      Fowler



                      Coldwell



                      Quigley



                      Cordina



                      Stevenson



                      Garcia






                      Also had Canelo winning:
                      Mikey Garcia
                      Robert Garcia
                      Mayweather Sr
                      Miguel Cotto
                      Errol Spence
                      David Lemieux
                      Mungia

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