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  • Clegg
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    If Manny Steward was still alive...

    which of AJ, Wilder, Fury do you think he'd best suited to training, which of them would he improve the most within a 12 month period?

    I'm undecided, but lean slightly towards AJ. His last fight was boring but he showed he can box to that kind of gameplan, not get caught up in emotions or force things. It was made easier by Parker's low risk approach but I just feel he'd listen to what he was told, trust Steward's instructions fully. But both Wilder and Fury seem to thrive when they fight in the moment, not saying they wouldn't trust Steward but they both throw unexpected, awkward shots more often than AJ, they both look better when in their own rhythm.

    Steward could improve Wilder/Fury in a lot of ways but I also wonder if he'd develop them towards a more othodox style which could limit some of their best qualities. Whereas with AJ, he already seems comfortable heading towards that kind of style.
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    Obviously AJ because he's got similar character to Wlad.

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    • kingstip9
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      #3
      Definitely seems like he’d go for AJ, but it’d be nice to see him training wilder and really maximise his length and power Thomas hearns style

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        Emanuel Steward taught Lennox Lewis the jab and taught Wladimir Klitschko how to maintain his stamina by fighting at a much slower pace without punching himself out; The classic jab and grab technique.

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        • Tom Cruise
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          I think Wilder and Fury both spent some time with Steward. Wilder probably took the most on board, especially the way he uses the jab and sets up his right hand. He looks like a crazy lab experiment version of a Kronk fighter.

          I feel Joshua would benefit most. I think Steward would show him a few things about how to use his lead and set up the right, how to properly generate power, that I think he is lacking a bit at the moment. He seems a bit over coached under Mckracken. Steward might be able to loosen him up a bit.

          His right especially I feel he just sells it, and as he has stepped up he hasnt really been able to land it. Parker, Takam and Klitschko saw it coming a mile off when he threw it from the outside. Steward is brilliant at getting big HWs using simple systems for blinding their opponent and clearing the guard

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            #6
            Originally posted by champion4ever
            Emanuel Steward taught Lennox Lewis the jab and taught Wladimir Klitschko how to maintain his stamina by fighting at a much slower pace without punching himself out; The classic jab and grab technique.
            wlad fought waaay different after manny. It made him more boring but also more successful and minimized his two biggest flaws, gassing and getting caught with big shots.

            Now that I am thinking about it, Manny implemented one of the biggest style changes on a big name fighter who was already in the middle of his career in recent memory. Roach developed pac and made him more than just a straight left hand but his style was still the same. Usually trainers just make tweaks here and there.

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            • champion4ever
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              Originally posted by el***
              wlad fought waaay different after manny. It made him more boring but also more successful and minimized his two biggest flaws, gassing and getting caught with big shots.

              Now that I am thinking about it, Manny implemented one of the biggest style changes on a big name fighter who was already in the middle of his career in recent memory.
              Yep, that's very true. He most certainly did. Wladimir became a more complete fighter under Manny Steward's tutelage.

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              • Eff Pandas
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                AJ is a good bet. He's the guy who can improve the most & seems real teachable.

                Fury is already the most talented guy in my eyes of the 3 so the biggest impact he'd probably have on him would be motivational + focus type sh^t.

                And I feel like Wilder wouldn't be as effective as he is if he was more classically trained + predictable with his boxing. I feel like outside of his power Wilder's best attribute is his risk taking & a good trainer would try to calm down Wilder's craziness.

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                  Stewart was a hell of a good trainer. It's hard to believe that he couldn't improve Wilder.

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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Clegg
                    His last fight was boring but he showed he can box to that kind of gameplan, not get caught up in emotions or force things.
                    Randomly & off the original topic I'm kinda wondering if that Klitschko fight changed Joshua for the worse in some ways. I feel he's not looked the same since that night. And that was a rough night even if he came out on top. He didn't look all that good vs Takam. And he was weird as f#ck in that Parker fight with calling his own timeouts when Parker was having good moments.

                    I'm super curious how Joshua reacts the next time he has a tough day at the office. Might be nothing, but I feel like he has some Victor Ortiz type of mindset in him even if he showed incredible heart & determination beating Klitschko. I think fighters are always evolving for the better & worse in different ways potentially.

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