If Manny Steward was still alive...

[Szef]

Randomly & off the original topic I'm kinda wondering if that Klitschko fight changed Joshua for the worse in some ways. I feel he's not looked the same since that night. And that was a rough night even if he came out on top. He didn't look all that good vs Takam. And he was weird as f#ck in that Parker fight with calling his own timeouts when Parker was having good moments.

I'm super curious how Joshua reacts the next time he has a tough day at the office. Might be nothing, but I feel like he has some Victor Ortiz type of mindset in him even if he showed incredible heart & determination beating Klitschko. I think fighters are always evolving for the better & worse in different ways potentially.

Well from Klitschko onwards he fought guys that were a few levels above the fighters he fought before the WK fight. He's now fighting another guy like that too.

[Eff Pandas]

Well from Klitschko onwards he fought guys that were a few levels above the fighters he fought before the WK fight. He's now fighting another guy like that too.

I'd agree with that. And maybe thats all it is, but I still say that Parker timeout sh^t suggests something is up with Joshua's confidence when things get tough now after what he's been through.

Joshua is a smart cat doe. So maybe he can fix this sh^t if it is a legit thing I feel like I'm seeing with him.

[Szef]

I'd agree with that. And maybe thats all it is, but I still say that Parker timeout sh^t suggests something is up with Joshua's confidence when things get tough now after what he's been through.

Joshua is a smart cat doe. So maybe he can fix this sh^t if it is a legit thing I feel like I'm seeing with him.

I think he needs a real KO to get his mojo back. Not like the BS he got vs Takam, he needs to knock his opponent down and out.

[Zaryu]

I think Wilder, stylistically speaking. With Wilder Steward would have a rangy long powerful fighter even when facing the other giants of the heavy weight division.

[NEETzsche]

Randomly & off the original topic I'm kinda wondering if that Klitschko fight changed Joshua for the worse in some ways. I feel he's not looked the same since that night. And that was a rough night even if he came out on top. He didn't look all that good vs Takam. And he was weird as f#ck in that Parker fight with calling his own timeouts when Parker was having good moments.

I'm super curious how Joshua reacts the next time he has a tough day at the office. Might be nothing, but I feel like he has some Victor Ortiz type of mindset in him even if he showed incredible heart & determination beating Klitschko. I think fighters are always evolving for the better & worse in different ways potentially.

His style has definitely been adjusted but I'd put that more down to McCracken's gameplanning rather than a crisis of confidence for Joshua. If they want to emulate Wlad and dominate the division for a long time then they probably feel that they need to fight like him to some extent too. The self-called timeout thing just seemed like the shenanigans of a spoilt A-side in his hometown

[dibzvincent143]

I agree with everything you said.
Aj first, then wilder.. As for fury? err, he seems already really good at what he does when he’s at his best.
For wilder, there’s just a lot to hone, some defense, and how to improve the delivery of that power.

[Eff Pandas]

I think he needs a real KO to get his mojo back. Not like the BS he got vs Takam, he needs to knock his opponent down and out.

Idk man. I think its him getting hit not him hitting other mfers. If you think about it he had a real Tyson-like run on the comeup. Guys were scared of him. He was stopping guys w/o getting hit very much. That Klitschko fight was a whole other animal doe. Besides the Whyte fight it was the only real fight he was in.

And now Joshua has more money & opportunities coming his way then he's ever had. Getting hit in the f#cking head might not seem as worth it when you got 8 digits in the bank & Dr Dre is your homie.

Idk doe like I said I just feel like the guy we saw vs Klitschko isn't the same guy we've seen since. We will see sooner or later whats up.

[Eff Pandas]

His style has definitely been adjusted but I'd put that more down to McCracken's gameplanning rather than a crisis of confidence for Joshua. If they want to emulate Wlad and dominate the division for a long time then they probably feel that they need to fight like him to some extent too. The self-called timeout thing just seemed like the shenanigans of a spoilt A-side in his hometown

Could be. I was thinking Joshua was above doing something like that that looks THAT bad, but maybe not & its just hometown edge grabbing type sh^t.

[Larry the boss]

i think he needs a real ko to get his mojo back. Not like the bs he got vs takam, he needs to knock his opponent down and out.

when was the last time he actually knocked someone down and out??

[Szef]

when was the last time he actually knocked someone down and out??

He knocked Wlad down 4 times. Before that, Molina.