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  • EnglishOxide
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    #191
    Originally posted by JWHardin
    OMG. Hearn can't be that ****ing dumb. Why would Wilder sign NOW for a fight with Joshua, while he has a fight lined up with Fury and Joshua has a fight lined up with Povetkin?????????????????

    He is a total moron, and anyone that agrees with him is too. Sorry if the shoe fits.
    He's not telling him to sign now.

    He's telling him to respond to the damn contract he agreed to, asked for and is now in possession of.

    He needs to formally refuse it because he's fighting Fury, or ask for changes. None of this 50/50 talk.

    Maybe Deontay didn't want the fight that bad after all if he refuses to even talk. As soon as the contract landed he pretends it don't even exist.

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      #192
      Originally posted by EnglishOxide
      He's telling him to respond to the damn contract he agreed to, asked for and is now in possession of.
      He only agreed if the fight took place next. Once Hearn admitted it wouldn't be next, Wilder walked away. He's said publicly numerous times he's no longer interested in the fight, will never fight for a flat fee, and he's not interested in the fight unless it's 50/50.

      Clearly Wilder isn't worth 50/50 right now, so he's going to try to raise his profile, win the lineal world heavyweight championship, and make himself worth 50/50.

      There's no need to respond to the flat fee contract when he's already made his demands clear.

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      • Noelanthony
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        #193
        Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
        Not that I agree with IMDAZED, but the back and forth between you two was mildly entertaining, and reminded me. There was a study done a few years back that found sports fans who interject themselves in to the sport/team by saying "we" are often the most deluded and craziest of a fan base. It said something like it helps relieve feelings of inadequacy, living vicariously, and a longing to be a part of something, among other things. It said that many of these fans also fall in to actual depression if their respective team loses, and many of them don't even notice that they are saying "we". Anyway like I said, I'm not trying to go at you, just found it funny that the whole "we" thing came up in a boxing forum. After all "fan" is short for fanatic, you'll be surprised how many people don't actually know that lol. It was an interesting study, wish I had the link.
        Oh I can see that. I’m a season ticket holder for Arsenal F.C. and for several years most of their results away from home had me in a state of depression. Aloof from society and behaving like I was auditioning for a part in the walking dead.

        “ we got beat 5-1 by Bayern Munich”
        “ we are playing Tottenham next week”
        “ we won’t win the league this year”
        “ we haven’t bought f#uck all in the transfer market”
        “ we are s#hit, xhaka is s#hit”

        I think most fans that don’t refer to football as soccer can relate to the “we” culture. Great observation though✌🏿

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        • Noelanthony
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          #194
          Originally posted by 5000boxing
          Lmao! u don't believe that crap! AJ is frank bruno 2.0 vs Tyson 2.0
          Frank Bruno 5.6 and Wilder is Tyson 0.62

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          • Jax teller
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            #195
            Originally posted by KnickTillDeaTh
            Are you just learning of theses negotiations? Or did you forget the ACTUAL details? The $50 million offer was fully negotiated, to which Hearn said there was a 70% chance AJ signs, AJ said, he was 90% sure the fight would be made. The location was a venue in Vegas, in September, exact date and venue could not be tied down because of the Canelo/GGG negotiations. over 20 days passed before the offer was rejected, not on the grounds that it was not good, in fact they admitted it was a good offer - because their reasoning and explanation dictated them admitting that they were willing to accept a lesser offer, for less money, because AJ owed it to his fans to have the fight in the UK. You are wrong.
            You just made half of that up and if any of them 'details' were mentioned it was verbally like Hearn verbally said the Wilder fight would be next. Also they said the 50 mil was probably legit not that the offer was good, they didn't know the full offer. They took 20 days as details were not being provided like there was some deception going on, meetings cancelled and all.

            'Details' are still coming out now, at the time there was no rematch clause according to Finkel but Frank Warrens just come out saying he was involved and there was 30 mil rematch so clearly some big details have been left out if true or it was just a smear campain on AJ?
            Last edited by Jax teller; 08-30-2018, 03:42 AM.

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            • aboutfkntime
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              #196
              Originally posted by Real King Kong
              Is it the guy whose manager refuses to meet with the other guy's promoter? Not even saying Hearn wanted the fight right away, but there wasn't much from wilder's side other than hearsay and a lot of pricing him out. But yea, a "rational person" just picks a side and ignores any responsibility they may have while blaming the other guy.


              nope

              it is the guy who demanded 50mil..... got it..... but then refused it

              and, he just so happens to be the very same guy who offered a blatant lowball..... got it..... and then BIZARRELY refused that as well

              come on man, keep fighting the good fight lol

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                #197
                Originally posted by Noelanthony
                Oh I can see that. I’m a season ticket holder for Arsenal F.C. and for several years most of their results away from home had me in a state of depression. Aloof from society and behaving like I was auditioning for a part in the walking dead.

                “ we got beat 5-1 by Bayern Munich”
                “ we are playing Tottenham next week”
                “ we won’t win the league this year”
                “ we haven’t bought f#uck all in the transfer market”
                “ we are s#hit, xhaka is s#hit”

                I think most fans that don’t refer to football as soccer can relate to the “we” culture. Great observation though✌🏿
                The "we" culture has never been applicable to individual sports in the UK.

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                • aboutfkntime
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                  #198
                  Originally posted by 5000boxing
                  Wilder caught Ortiz off the back foot... last minute of round 10.. the past fighters paved the way for today.. but who would win is a Neverending debate because this is the present and the past doesn't exist anymore.. so why come up with hypotheticals.. when in truth Wilder could ko any of the heavyweight from back in the day.. maybe they can do the same to him.. but who cares if we can't see it!


                  I agree with the bold

                  and nobody said Wilder was incapable of knocking anybody out

                  Wilder has a great 1/2, quick and accurate, he would be a dangerous opponent for anyone..... but like I said, fighters back in the day seemed to be more well-rounded and more well-schooled..... Stiverne went the distance, you better believe a lot of those tough old-school fighters would have as well

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                  • SeGoodland
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                    #199
                    Why are we still going on about this!? Its the same thing over and over...yes; Wilder and AJ isn't happening right now.

                    The fans have been promised confirmation and details, about Fury v Wilder by Frank Warren since the Pianeta fight. Why are more threads and posts talking about AJ still? AJ is fighting Povetkin, confirmed. Why are there no threads talking about that!?

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #200
                      Originally posted by IMDAZED
                      Hearn can't offer more to Wilder. The fight generates more in the US.
                      I thought the guy made good points but didn’t understand your response. Hearn can not offer wilder more because??...... and if he can not offer Wilder more money what are you basing it off?......The fight makes more in the States. Whilst I respect your forward thinking I think Everyman and his dog knew that point

                      I have read your posts you come across as a knowledgeable guy so I’m assuming you were on your period yesterday and your emotions were just racing. All is forgotten✌🏿

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