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  • Raggamuffin
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    #161
    Originally posted by DaNeutral.
    I dont know, thats why im asking, Wilders calling him a liar, your calling him a liar, the next person is calling him a liar, whats he lying about?

    Ofcourse it was the next fight, obviously it was the next fight and they knew it, Hearn stated it was to be the next fight. And how is that a lie anyway? They moaned about dates and venues yet they never asked Eddie to clarify.

    I conceed that the last and still current and valid contract to face Anthony Joshua April 2019 at Wembley stadium London England is a lowball offer.
    Why the **** should they have to ask Eddie to clarify? Why would Haymon and Finkel of all people who have done multi million dollar fights and ppv fights have to ask a rookie who has never done a super fight in his entire ****en life have to clarify anything!!!???.

    And second I just told you what they lied about. They lied about when the fight was going to take place. They verbally said it was next and sent a contract NOT saying that the fight was next. That's what Wilder is accusing them of...lying all along.

    Your grand standing can't deny what Wilder himself has said. You can't tell us what you think happened when Wilder himself is tellingus what happened. You're asking posters to believe you over Wilder.

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    • Real King Kong
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      #162
      Originally posted by aboutfkntime
      it is CLEARLY obvious who wants that fight, and who does not

      keyword = " CLEARLY "

      keep fighting the good fight
      neither side has acted like they REALLY want the fight...it's mostly been posturing.

      keyword= "REALLY"

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      • OldTerry
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        #163
        Hearn sounds like a broken record. Is he so dumb as to think Wilders going to respond to the lowball contract he sent him. I don't think so, it is merely a way to make it appear Wilder doesn't want the fight when in reality it is Hearn/Joshua who don't won't it. If Hearn seriously wants a Joshua fight then he should send another contract to Wilder, one that is fair.
        Last edited by OldTerry; 08-29-2018, 04:34 PM. Reason: Correcting grammar

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        • OldTerry
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          #164
          Originally posted by scarybodyshot
          As Hearn/AJ said in an interview a few weeks ago, they've got till mid January to get the Wilder/AJ fight signed.

          While it would nice to get it agreed now so that they can focus on it immediately after the Fury & Povetkin bouts (provided they come through those) I can see no harm in waiting until they have both fought.

          The only sticking point in making this fight is the financial split, which if Wilder wins (not a question of 'if' because he will) then he will have more of a claim to a 50/50 financial split. - I don't think Hearn will give him 50% and I personally agree with that BUT I do believe he should be getting 40% - 45% not a flat fee.

          The problem is that Wilder already wants 50% and when he beats Fury he will stay firm on that and I don't think Hearn/AJ will entertain that idea which is a shame because ultimately it is boxing fans that miss out. They both make millions going forward regardless of whether or not they fight each other.

          As AJ said 'the financial pie is big enough for everyone to make plenty of money' so he should concede and accept 50/50... Whoever wins will be able to demand a bigger split in the rematch which would make it 100% fair.

          Thoughts people? - Without arguing/insults, lets try and keep it boxing and unbiased?
          I agree with you 95%. The only thing I see differently is that Wilder would probably accept 40% and would definitely accept 45%. Especially if the terms were reversed if there is a rematch.

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          • OldTerry
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            #165
            Originally posted by P to the J
            “AJ can KO Wilder in 3.”

            Correction: any decent, young heavyweight can KO Wilder in 3. Only problem is there aren’t many of those about it. In any era between the 60’s and 2000’s, it’s doubtful that any of these guys would be champions, much less undefeated.

            But even a deeply average Joshua will dismantle him and the mystique around Wilder dies there and then.
            True but Wilder can also KO Joshua in three. Can not will goes both ways.

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            • OldTerry
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              #166
              Originally posted by Jax teller
              Still better than just making 'news' up.

              Rematch = 2 fights, simple enough for you chumps? Pretty sure Wilder was bragging about the rematch situation as AJ wouldn't give him one.

              Considering AJ and Wilder only seem to fight twice a year, how is there gonna be a rematch before April?

              And you still can't seem to explain why Bum squad wouldn't attend the meetings or do anything to seal the deal on the 50 mil. I'd want to meet someone before I paid them 50 mil, wouldn't you? Also bit suspect Warren was involved with the 50 mil by his own admission he had more info than Hearn and AJ as he'd seen the contract.
              Rematch only if Wilder loses to Fury or if the first fight is close and exciting. No guarantee here of two fights.

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              • peplz
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                #167
                Originally posted by ashadam
                Wilder offer Joshua $50 Million and who was funding this?
                According to Frank Warren he was helping "put things together".

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                  #168
                  Originally posted by 5000boxing
                  The one who turned down his career high payday of 50 million guarantee is a clear indication of who is wasting who's time. That slave deal was agreed upon for this September by team Wilder.. not april next year u pathetic dung beetle! Ur offer is whack.. ur champion is a world vacant paper champion.. nothing more.. and he's afraid. We offered fury 50/50 because we are fair. Not this bs 12.5m flat fee.. but we are suppose to believe hearns has a billion dollars? Lmao.. remember AJ man fans.. the money isn't real its a publicity stunt, AJ can ko Wilder in 3rds? parker is a tougher fight than Wilder.. no one knows Wilder.. Wimbley is not available in September. AJ needs more than a 8 week training camp for Wilder.. AJ man fans need to go train an fight Wilder yourself because AJ is not selling his soul for 80m plus and he built this in england an wants to do it for his fans.. wtf? Yes AJ the devil is in the details and his name is "The Bronze Bomber! " tell the U.K fans whatever you want..But the rest of the World knows whats going on.. even your own countrymen.. fury, lennox, hatton, etc..
                  Well said, Hearn & crew create new creations in the form of WACK excuses that all stem from being SHOOK and for the need to preserve that zombie fund raising!! Lol!...

                  Does Hearn even remember his diversions(?) or is he THAT delusional off of all the CASH he can make hiding from Wilder in those "risk free" fights?!?

                  Hearn has got that Jim Jones effect on his "subjects" - the cash will continue to flow - and they'll build a shrine to Joshua after his 1st toothpaste commercial in trafalga square......

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                  • OldTerry
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                    #169
                    Originally posted by nick_viking
                    I’m not 100% that would be positive. Wilder’s unpredictability is part of what makes him such a challenge. Not sure anyone could or should turn him into a proper controlled ‘boxer’ at this point.

                    If he fights in a more controlled style, is he going to outbox Fury or Joshua? I’m not too sure...
                    Maybe Wilder does need to learn control his aggression cause otherwise he is going to hurt somebody (Joshua...maybe) really bad. My comment is supposed to be in good humor as I do agree with what you said.

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                    • Jax teller
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                      #170
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Why the **** should they have to ask Eddie to clarify? Why would Haymon and Finkel of all people who have done multi million dollar fights and ppv fights have to ask a rookie who has never done a super fight in his entire ****en life have to clarify anything!!!???.

                      And second I just told you what they lied about. They lied about when the fight was going to take place. They verbally said it was next and sent a contract NOT saying that the fight was next. That's what Wilder is accusing them of...lying all along.

                      Your grand standing can't deny what Wilder himself has said. You can't tell us what you think happened when Wilder himself is tellingus what happened. You're asking posters to believe you over Wilder.
                      Still not a lie, the contract was missing a date whether you believe it meant they was was going to do it after povetkin or not you're just stipulating. Odds are they wouldn't as it would be too damaging to the honest reputation they seem to be trying to build for AJ and lose some fans. Not to mention Hearns rep which would make the launch of DAZN harder than he already seems to be finding it as even less fighters would want to trust him.

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