Comments Thread For: Hearn: Joshua Would Like Wilder, But No Interest in Time Waster

[JWHardin]

OMG. Hearn can't be that ****ing dumb. Why would Wilder sign NOW for a fight with Joshua, while he has a fight lined up with Fury and Joshua has a fight lined up with Povetkin?????????????????

He is a total moron, and anyone that agrees with him is too. Sorry if the shoe fits.

[aboutfkntime]

neither side has acted like they REALLY want the fight...it's mostly been posturing.

keyword= "REALLY"

keep fighting the good fight

again, it is clearly obvious to a rational adult who really wants that fight

[D4thincarnation]

If it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck and looks like a duck, it is a duck.

Hearn's words shows that team Joshua is ducking.

[Real King Kong]

keep fighting the good fight

again, it is clearly obvious to a rational adult who really wants that fight

Is it the guy whose manager refuses to meet with the other guy's promoter? Not even saying Hearn wanted the fight right away, but there wasn't much from wilder's side other than hearsay and a lot of pricing him out. But yea, a "rational person" just picks a side and ignores any responsibility they may have while blaming the other guy.

[_Rexy_]

Was that a rhetorical question?😂😂

No, not at all.

[5000boxing]

big deal, what does that have to do with boxing

even as far back as the 70's/80's fighters were better equipped and more well-rounded

many fighters/fans today cannot understand the concept of winning a fight off the back foot

and we are losing the old school training style which was more about mentoring, the top two inches..... too many mitt-men, not enough technical proficiency

and Mayweather is the only 15 round fighter of recent times

back in the day, boxing was much tougher, period..... because life was much tougher

today, fans think Lemieux is elite..... back in the day, he would be making a living doing something else

Wilder caught Ortiz off the back foot... last minute of round 10.. the past fighters paved the way for today.. but who would win is a Neverending debate because this is the present and the past doesn't exist anymore.. so why come up with hypotheticals.. when in truth Wilder could ko any of the heavyweight from back in the day.. maybe they can do the same to him.. but who cares if we can't see it!

[5000boxing]

Actually Wilder is smaller (lighter) than most of the great heavy weights of the last three decades. Weight wise he matches up with Frazier Ali, Louis, Holifield, Tyson and others. These men were all great heavy weights proving that the advantage for heavyweights does not necessarily go to the bigger man like it does in the lighter weight divisions.

True.. I love the way he threw 241 lbs Ortiz like a ragg doll. Wilder weighed in a 214..

[5000boxing]

We still on the 50 million bro? As you eloquently stated the devil is in the detail. Joshua’s first response in hearing the 50 million was “ let’s roll” but that 50 million offer came with stipulations:-

Fighting abroad
No rematch clause
Conflicting commercial/ sponsorship interests etc etc

Having said that the majority of fighters would not balk at such a deal nd I believe if both camps were amicable with each other such as team Parker and team Joshua perhaps they could have thrashed out a deal.

If I offered to pay a fighter 50 million,the least I could do is meet them in person instead of telling the media or getting them to accept the deal over the phone. You know my sentiments on this whole ordeal team Joshua especially Hearn has shown signs of apprehension but Team Wilder not necessarily the fighter have procrastinated too.

Hearn needs to change the flat fee to a percentage .very simple write up a contract 30% now, if he fights and defeats Fury in Nov or December with PPV over 400,000 percentage will be 40%if over 1 million PPV then potentially more. Any terms close to that I feel Americans will start changing their tune and will be expecting their leader to sign.

I have no qualms calling it how I see it. I feel we will beat Deontay and knock him out however, I feel those chances reduces if the fight was in Las Vegas and if Deontay connects with our chin😜

Lmao! u don't believe that crap! AJ is frank bruno 2.0 vs Tyson 2.0

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Fair point but people are acting like 'no date, no venue contract' was a crime and forget the 50 mil was a take it or leave it in 24hrs offer from an instagram video. If the contract wasn't serious because it lacked those details then the 50 mil was laughable. My point is you can't say Wilder tried everything by offering that and say Hearn threw the fight away by not including a date and venue.

Are you just learning of theses negotiations? Or did you forget the ACTUAL details? The $50 million offer was fully negotiated, to which Hearn said there was a 70% chance AJ signs, AJ said, he was 90% sure the fight would be made. The location was a venue in Vegas, in September, exact date and venue could not be tied down because of the Canelo/GGG negotiations. over 20 days passed before the offer was rejected, not on the grounds that it was not good, in fact they admitted it was a good offer - because their reasoning and explanation dictated them admitting that they were willing to accept a lesser offer, for less money, because AJ owed it to his fans to have the fight in the UK. You are wrong.

[KnickTillDeaTh]

Corny

Aurevoir

Not that I agree with IMDAZED, but the back and forth between you two was mildly entertaining, and reminded me. There was a study done a few years back that found sports fans who interject themselves in to the sport/team by saying "we" are often the most deluded and craziest of a fan base. It said something like it helps relieve feelings of inadequacy, living vicariously, and a longing to be a part of something, among other things. It said that many of these fans also fall in to actual depression if their respective team loses, and many of them don't even notice that they are saying "we". Anyway like I said, I'm not trying to go at you, just found it funny that the whole "we" thing came up in a boxing forum. After all "fan" is short for fanatic, you'll be surprised how many people don't actually know that lol. It was an interesting study, wish I had the link.