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  • Jax teller
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    #171
    Originally posted by OldTerry
    Rematch only if Wilder loses to Fury or if the first fight is close and exciting. No guarantee here of two fights.
    Really? I thought Wilder was making a point of it like "I'm a champ, Fury's a champ this is how you're supposed to roll" type thing to AJ. I don't know where I read it to say for sure though.

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    • Noelanthony
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      #172
      Originally posted by Squ□redCircle34
      How can anyone in there right mind take what Hearns and AJ has to say with even a pinch of salt seriously?


      Everyone with common sense knows that AJ doesn’t fancy his chances against Wilder, Rob McCracken, Joshua’s own coach even said that he basically doesn’t believe they can win against Wilder!

      The fight will never happen unless Wilder looks horrible in his fights or his punch resistance is gone as well as if his age catches up to him!

      If the fight happened today I would be rich due to the AJ fan boys delusions and Vegas who would pick the guy with more belts but the truth is Wilder would smash AJ to bits in whatever round he feels like it!
      Rob McCracken doesn’t believe they will win against Wilder. Did he say that? Or subconsciously you interpreted whatever interview you listen to to mean that?

      I have no qualms you believing Wilder will win and even choosing the round but when Wilder fight the likes of Szpilka and it goes 6/7 rounds and Gerald Washington 5 rounds and Molina 8 rounds I think where does this naive confidence stem from. None of those fighters I mentioned can punch. Nevertheless it is your opinion and I respect it and I too would love to challenge you to bet on a proper platform and for as much as you want.

      N.b I don’t bet for points so don’t insult me and I don’t do friendly bets, waste of time

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      • OldTerry
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        #173
        Originally posted by DaNeutral.
        Everybody is saying Hearn is spouting nonsense and alot of people calling him a liar. Im not saying he isnt but what exactly is it hes lying to us all about?
        Interesting question. I wouldn't straight out call Hearn a liar. What he is a master of misdirection. He is good at using strawman arguments and leading people away from the COMPLETE set of facts. He deceives by not telling the whole story and setting a false narrative. He'd make a great Defense Attorney or politician or used car salesman.
        Last edited by OldTerry; 08-29-2018, 05:20 PM. Reason: Correcting grammar

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          #174
          Originally posted by 5000boxing
          Bs.. Athletes are bigger, faster, and stronger than fighters back in the days.. so u don't know.. plus, drug testing!
          Actually Wilder is smaller (lighter) than most of the great heavy weights of the last three decades. Weight wise he matches up with Frazier Ali, Louis, Holifield, Tyson and others. These men were all great heavy weights proving that the advantage for heavyweights does not necessarily go to the bigger man like it does in the lighter weight divisions.

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          • Noelanthony
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            #175
            Originally posted by Muz
            Hearn speaks proven facts, but of course the black demographic of Wilder supporters are delusional and only want to see what their agenda allows them to see. These people literally think they are royalty and call themselves Kings, but factually these people have been peasants their whole lives and their ancestors lives. No reasoning with mentally deranged people.
            The Caucasian wilder supporters are obviously normal??.lolol

            Your black ex wife took half and your mixed race kids don’t speak to you. No wonder you are bitter

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              #176
              Originally posted by Jax teller
              Still not a lie, the contract was missing a date whether you believe it meant they was was going to do it after povetkin or not you're just stipulating. Odds are they wouldn't as it would be too damaging to the honest reputation they seem to be trying to build for AJ and lose some fans. Not to mention Hearns rep which would make the launch of DAZN harder than he already seems to be finding it as even less fighters would want to trust him.
              Stipulating? So basically you're saying that Wilder was signing a contract for April of 2019 instead of September 2018? Is this what you're saying?

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              • Noelanthony
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                #177
                Originally posted by Real King Kong
                neither side has acted like they REALLY want the fight...it's mostly been posturing.

                keyword= "REALLY"
                Good rebuttal

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                  #178
                  Originally posted by Jax teller
                  Fair point but people are acting like 'no date, no venue contract' was a crime and forget the 50 mil was a take it or leave it in 24hrs offer from an instagram video. If the contract wasn't serious because it lacked those details then the 50 mil was laughable. My point is you can't say Wilder tried everything by offering that and say Hearn threw the fight away by not including a date and venue.
                  But we all saw it wasn’t a take it or leave it being as though they went on for another 3 weeks discussing the offer wilder made. And yes not having a date or venue on contract Hearn sent was a issue because he always wanted it to be for next year not this year like wilder agreed to

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                  • Raggamuffin
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                    #179
                    Originally posted by SchoolTheseCats
                    But we all saw it wasn’t a take it or leave it being as though they went on for another 3 weeks discussing the offer wilder made. And yes not having a date or venue on contract Hearn sent was a issue because he always wanted it to be for next year not this year like wilder agreed to
                    Well said. Posters are saying that Hearn is a master of misdirection. He doesn't get that kind of credit from me. I'm saying that he lied to Wilder also. They were negotiating way before Headvetkin was in the picture. Joshua wanted another fight before possibly facing Wilder. We now know that they never planned on facing Wilder. That's why they sent a flat fee. That's why they called the 50 mil ridiculous, that's why they asked dad Hearn to come over and make it look like he would help with the sad attempt at negotiations, and that's why they basically sent a blank contract. But Hearn never lied, he just misdirected, lmao.

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                    • Noelanthony
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                      #180
                      Originally posted by Raggamuffin
                      Well said. Posters are saying that Hearn is a master of misdirection. He doesn't get that kind of credit from me. I'm saying that he lied to Wilder also. They were negotiating way before Headvetkin was in the picture. Joshua wanted another fight before possibly facing Wilder. We now know that they never planned on facing Wilder. That's why they sent a flat fee. That's why they called the 50 mil ridiculous, that's why they asked dad Hearn to come over and make it look like he would help with the sad attempt at negotiations, and that's why they basically sent a blank contract. But Hearn never lied, he just misdirected, lmao.
                      A poster not posters made a point of misdirection of the truth. Either it was a oversight on your part or you deliberately wrote it the way you did to exaggerate your point. Either way I can’t pinpoint your true intentions regardless how convinced I am about the false narrative you portray. Your comments are witty so I never really challenge you but you do contradict yourself somewhat.

                      You told a fellow poster that Deontay called AJ a liar and gave your reasons then you went on to say you would believe Deontay a professional boxer over someone that posts.which I can understand that reasoning. However if that same poster said he will take AJ words over yours you would be effing and blinding because as far as you are concerned they are cowards and liars. Which is cool as you are entitled to your opinion.

                      Now I don’t really care so i can’t be asked to look up the article but around 7 days there was an article posted by boxingscene where Deontay was giving his thoughts on Joshua. At the start of the interview/article he categorically stated there was no contract that team Joshua have not sent a contract then a few paragraphs later he said there is a contract but it has Eddie’s signature. Which is it ? I don’t believe you can be that obtuse. I’m only responding to you because I’m beginning to see the anger in your words. I haven’t seen that much conviction since I watched Django

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