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  • Hatesrats
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    #121
    "Mexican's for GEE" is some of the funniest self-hating shizz I have seen in a long time.

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    • Hnnnggg
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      #122
      Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
      Just because you're an alt, I will not excuse your lack of understanding of how weight works for a fighter. Just because Alvarez could make 160, doesn't mean that his body was ready to perform at peak level at 160. Thus a catchweight between the two would have been ideal. All this belt talk is nonsense and just you and your GGG nuthuggers way of putting GGG in the best position to succeed. Funny how its ok for GGG to move down to 154 to fight a former lightweight who weighs-in two lbs below 154 for his JMW fights, but its not ok for him to move down 2-3 llbs to fight Alvarez who at the time had never fought at the full 160 limit.
      It appears that it’s the champions prerogative whether or not he’s willing to move down in weight for the challenger in all cases you described (canelo, cotto, and Martinez).

      But the argument you put forth is implicitly stating that weight classes don’t matter and that fighters should essentially be able to fight at whatever weight they are comfortable with? Why pick up his strap at middleweight when he’s not ready to defend it at middleweight? That’s different than voluntarily draining yourself for an opponent.

      Also could you explain how canelo was ready, body wise to move up to 164.5 before actually fighting at 160?

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      • Ake-Dawg
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        #123
        Originally posted by Hnnnggg
        It appears that it’s the champions prerogative whether or not he’s willing to move down in weight for the challenger in all cases you described (canelo, cotto, and Martinez).

        But the argument you put forth is implicitly stating that weight classes don’t matter and that fighters should essentially be able to fight at whatever weight they are comfortable with? Why pick up his strap at middleweight when he’s not ready to defend it at middleweight? That’s different than voluntarily draining yourself for an opponent.

        Also could you explain how canelo was ready, body wise to move up to 164.5 before actually fighting at 160?
        I'm not saying weight classes don't matter. Not even the slightest hint of that. Here we go with the obtuse arguments.

        Secondly, he picked up the middleweight strap fighting against Cotto, a fight that had been in the works for years. The strap enhanced the value of the fight. It was an add on. Thus he had no problem dropping the belt when the mando order came from the WBC.

        Don't be daft. Fighting Chavez Jr, a 168lber, at 164.5, is in no way shape or form anything like fighting an elite 160lber. Everyone knew it was gonna be a glorified sparring session.

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        • Hnnnggg
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          #124
          Originally posted by Ake-Dawg
          I'm not saying weight classes don't matter. Not even the slightest hint of that. Here we go with the obtuse arguments.

          Secondly, he picked up the middleweight strap fighting against Cotto, a fight that had been in the works for years. The strap enhanced the value of the fight. It was an add on. Thus he had no problem dropping the belt when the mando order came from the WBC.

          Don't be daft. Fighting Chavez Jr, a 168lber, at 164.5, is in no way shape or form anything like fighting an elite 160lber. Everyone knew it was gonna be a glorified sparring session.
          If you’re advocating that it’s ok to pick up and drop straps at different catchweights then you’re obviously not one who cares for weight classes. If the belt wasn’t important why fight cotto at 155 for the mw wbc and lineal belt? Cotto was naturally much smaller, he could’ve easily made 154 which was canelo’s division if it was just about the fight why bother. Canelo obviously wanted to be a two weight champion but didn’t like the idea of fighting natural 160 pounders.

          So again, why do you think it’s acceptable for someone to fight for the strap at a catchweight and not defend that belt because they were not ready to? Let’s be real, you’re just giving canelo a free pass because you like him. It’s even more evident when you dismiss the fact that canelo cherry picked Chávez jr. because it’s apparently ok to fight at a smw catchweight if the opponent is a bum. All not good looks for canelo

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          • tokon
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            #125
            Originally posted by chubuk7
            Go fly a kite! You know ***** about boxing.
            hahaha, ok, thanks.

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              #126
              Originally posted by turnedup
              So is Canelo's for the most part. Go look at his resume and study it thoroughly and that's with a top three promoter managing his career practically the length of it. What's the excuse for 90% of his opponents being no hopers? Oh i'm sure people tend to ignore that the same way they do with Garcia. So he fought Floyd, Lara, Trout, and Cotto. 52 fights and he has four names worth a damn on his resume...WOW well done. Go for it defend that brooooo


              at least he didn't avoid Lara, like Hypekin did

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                #127
                Originally posted by Hnnnggg
                If you’re advocating that it’s ok to pick up and drop straps at different catchweights then you’re obviously not one who cares for weight classes. If the belt wasn’t important why fight cotto at 155 for the mw wbc and lineal belt? Cotto was naturally much smaller, he could’ve easily made 154 which was canelo’s division if it was just about the fight why bother. Canelo obviously wanted to be a two weight champion but didn’t like the idea of fighting natural 160 pounders.

                So again, why do you think it’s acceptable for someone to fight for the strap at a catchweight and not defend that belt because they were not ready to? Let’s be real, you’re just giving canelo a free pass because you like him. It’s even more evident when you dismiss the fact that canelo cherry picked Chávez jr. because it’s apparently ok to fight at a smw catchweight if the opponent is a bum. All not good looks for canelo


                STFU you whiney golov-cvnt

                Hypekin ducked Derevyanchenko and Saunders to select VANES lol

                oh, and he got stripped for being such a pvssy

                did you forget all that ?

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                • Hnnnggg
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                  #128
                  Originally posted by aboutfkntime
                  STFU you whiney golov-cvnt

                  Hypekin ducked Derevyanchenko and Saunders to select VANES lol

                  oh, and he got stripped for being such a pvssy

                  did you forget all that ?
                  Bro you are a ****** and you don’t have to deflect a question not directed towards you. I’m a fan of numerous boxers not just golovkin. So I’ve no need to attach myself to a boxer in a manner that you do with canelo.

                  Also check your facts, Saunders said he would not be ready by may 5th, plus he was slated to fight Murray.

                  Also let me get this straight, in your mind derevyanchanko is tougher competition than canelo? Because if GGG was afraid as you stated why would he duck the technician to go on to face a bigger challenge in canelo?

                  Before you personally accost someone, you got to have your personality checked man. I’m guessing however you’re a real piece of **** in real life so it wouldn’t really matter. Probably poorly educated, likely low tax bracket, and an overall sad person because most individuals who possess this low of a level of critical thinking skills in conjunction with your people skills are usually nobodies. But I’m glad that at least here on the forums you feel empowered

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                  • aboutfkntime
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                    #129
                    Originally posted by Hnnnggg
                    Bro you are a ****** and you don’t have to deflect a question not directed towards you. I’m a fan of numerous boxers not just golovkin. So I’ve no need to attach myself to a boxer in a manner that you do with canelo.

                    Also check your facts, Saunders said he would not be ready by may 5th, plus he was slated to fight Murray.

                    Also let me get this straight, in your mind derevyanchanko is tougher competition than canelo? Because if GGG was afraid as you stated why would he duck the technician to go on to face a bigger challenge in canelo?

                    Before you personally accost someone, you got to have your personality checked man. I’m guessing however you’re a real piece of **** in real life so it wouldn’t really matter. Probably poorly educated, likely low tax bracket, and an overall sad person because most individuals who possess this low of a level of critical thinking skills in conjunction with your people skills are usually nobodies. But I’m glad that at least here on the forums you feel empowered


                    Saunders said that he would be available in June, but Hypekin needed to run off and fight Vanes lol

                    the very second that Saunders said he would be available, there was no other fight to make..... Vanes, and the other cherry-picks Munguia and Spike..... should never have been mentioned

                    and if you were anything but a golov-muppet, you would be well-aware of that

                    if Golovkin's awful fanbase had any standards at all, you would have demanded better..... and would not now be crying and making silly excuses for his average resume

                    just saying

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