Anyone else sickened by golovkin wasting his prime in Germany?

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  • S7V7N
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    #41
    Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
    The MW wasn't loaded and who was going to fight him at that time. Lots of risk and little compensation. He has better competition now but the landscape wasn't so good when he was rising
    Can't believe all the passes some give others but expected Golovkin to always take the higher risk, low reward fights no matter what was brewing on the horizon.

    Virtually every opponent chosen was less money than GGG plus he had a belt (or 3) while none of these opponents chosen over him had a belt. Just to name a few. It has always been about HIGH RISK with NOT ENOUGH payoff. It's the only reason things have changed now, less risk since he's older & more money in the pot.

    #2 MW----Saul Alvarez-----------Amir Khan
    #6 MW----Chris Eubank Jr.-------Renold Quinlan
    #3 MW----Billy Joe Saunders----Artur Akavov
    #C MW----Miguel Cotto----------Daniel Geale
    #4 MW----Sam Soliman--------- Jermain Taylor
    NR SMW--Julio Cesar Chavez Jr--Andrzej Fonfara
    #2 MW----Peter Quillin-----------Lukas Konecny
    #3 MW----Darren Barker---------Felix Sturm
    #6 MW----Martin Murray---------Siarhei Khamitski
    #C MW----Sergio Martinez-------Martin Murray
    #1 MW----Daniel Geale-----------Anthony Mundine
    #1 MW----Felix Sturm------------Giovanni Lorenzo
    #10 MW---Hassan N’Dam--------Max Bursak

    Originally posted by HarvardBlue
    This list means absolutely nothing to me.
    Perhaps you should go to a basket weaving forum then, 'cause this one is about boxing & specifically this thread is about Golovkin's history.
    Last edited by S7V7N; 08-22-2018, 07:35 AM.

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    • Ray*
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      #42
      He had his first fight in September 2012 in America I think. That’s 6 years ago. He came at a time when most of the top guys didn’t need to fight him. He was quite unlucky. Had he come earlier or if he was American for example then all those things would have helped him.

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      • STREET CLEANER
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        #43
        Originally posted by S7V7N
        Can't believe all the passes some give others but expected Golovkin to always take the higher risk, low reward fights no matter what was brewing on the horizon.

        Virtually every opponent chosen was less money than GGG plus he had a belt (or 3) while none of these opponents chosen over him had a belt. Just to name a few. It has always been about HIGH RISK with NOT ENOUGH payoff. It's the only reason things have changed now, less risk since he's older & more money in the pot.

        #2 MW----Saul Alvarez-----------Amir Khan
        #6 MW----Chris Eubank Jr.-------Renold Quinlan
        #3 MW----Billy Joe Saunders----Artur Akavov
        #C MW----Miguel Cotto----------Daniel Geale
        #4 MW----Sam Soliman--------- Jermain Taylor
        NR SMW--Julio Cesar Chavez Jr--Andrzej Fonfara
        #2 MW----Peter Quillin-----------Lukas Konecny
        #3 MW----Darren Barker---------Felix Sturm
        #6 MW----Martin Murray---------Siarhei Khamitski
        #C MW----Sergio Martinez-------Martin Murray
        #1 MW----Daniel Geale-----------Anthony Mundine
        #1 MW----Felix Sturm------------Giovanni Lorenzo
        #10 MW---Hassan N’Dam--------Max Bursak



        Perhaps you should go to a basket weaving forum then, 'cause this one is about boxing & specifically this thread is about Golovkin's history.
        What I meant is during GGG rise nobody was lining up to fight him. He seemed like too much risk for an unknown fighter that didn't bring money to the table. Even when he got popular it took a while for him to get meaningful fights.

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        • SplitSecond
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          #44
          This is something I have talked to people about. By the time Golovkin would fight the top guys he'd be past prime and people would think he was never that good.

          If he beats Canelo again at 36 he'll have proven to me that he had ATG potential.

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          • Pat bateman
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            #45
            Originally posted by HarvardBlue
            No he wasn't. Go back and look at all the people that beat him before Golovkin.
            I'll reiterate yes he was.

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            • Madison Boxing
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              #46
              He wasted a lot of prime years. He should have done what usyk did and get moved a lot more quickly.

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              • Pat bateman
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                #47
                Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
                "B-b-b-but Ouma wuz p4p doe....I'm 'Pat Beats-off-other-Men' doe. GGG is the best doe. Canelo didn't lite that boy up lyke a cristmas tree doe."
                Disgusting little hoodrat.

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                • paulf
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                  #48
                  Ya'll have short memories.

                  Not long ago, HBO was only showing Eastern European fighters when they were brought in as opponents. No one thought these guys were marketable except Kathy Duva and her polish guys on the east coast. Hell, Freedom and his alts were making threads every day about how HBO was part of an international ***ish conspiracy to keep the white man down because of it. Remember all those threads about how Ross Greenburg and Kerry Davis were RACIST?

                  I don't see Golovkin getting a shot much faster if he had gone pro here.... I'd imagine he'd have ended up with some bull**** like winning the WBC Silver strap from Vanes and then chasing hopelessly Chavez Jr just like he did Felix Strum.

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #49
                    Originally posted by Pat bateman
                    When I look at his career I see alot of what ifs & missed opportunity.

                    Imagine a 25 year Old golovkin with hbo backing and a better trainer then Sanchez. Say for example it was ggg who knocked jacobs out instead of pirog at the time he could have had a truly great career instead of a good one.

                    Its a shame to say the least.
                    I don't like GGG. Youu can sh-t on his crap resume and his getting his title in the boardroom and not the ring but this criticism seems as silly as criticizing him for staying in shape and not going to 160.

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                    • Pat bateman
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                      I don't like GGG. Youu can sh-t on his crap resume and his getting his title in the boardroom and not the ring but this criticism seems as silly as criticizing him for staying in shape and not going to 160.
                      How does my post have anything to do with what you just said bro? I'm confused.

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