Anyone else sickened by golovkin wasting his prime in Germany?

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    #21
    Yep absolutely sickened bro, it makes me sick to my stomach. Imagine if GGG was called Gennontae Gennontaeus Gennontus and was from the USA, he'd have a much easier time and Canelo wouldn't be able to lite that boy up like a Christmas tree as he did and he will do in the rematch.

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      #22
      His career went as they wanted. As much money as possible without having to fight anyone.

      Yeah he chased a lot of easy fights with Strum but when a challenge came from Ward they sure had a lot of excuses.

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        #23
        Originally posted by S7V7N
        I'm not so sure it would have made a difference. Perhaps it would've put a little more pressure on some opponents & raised the paydays to entice better opposition a little earlier, but I'm thinking not.

        Golovkin once offered Barker a fight back in 2013 (after GGG was already fighting on HBO) & requested no check, no split needed at all. Barker still turned it down.

        Golovkin has been ranked no lower than the #2 MW since 2012 when he made his HBO debut yet not less than 7 current MW champs (at the time) all passed on the opportunity.

        TBRB 2012 (Inaugural Rankings)
        Middleweight
        Champion Sergio Martinez
        1. Daniel Geale
        2. Gennady Golovkin
        3. Felix Sturm
        4. Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr.
        5. Matthew Macklin
        6. Dmitry Pirog
        7. Peter Quillin
        8. Martin Murray
        9. Marco Antonio Rubio
        10. Hassan N’Dam Jikam

        GGG's lost scalps are filled with fighters who chose easier routes for less money, many passed up career high paydays. It has always been more about risk than the money (unless it's a ridiculous amount) except for a very few. You need that first quality win to get over the hump. That's what the Lemieux PPV provided & started the windfall for Golovkin, yet even still you had several fights fall out with opponents claiming he brought nothing to the table.

        Golovkin has definitely gotten some bad breaks with the Sturm avoidance & elevantion, the Pirog injury & then the death of his father that all put off his rise to stardom...or some may say granted him a reprieve from a loss. The butterfly wings beat very quickly indeed, none know how one simple change in history would have affected the next. I'm still happy for what he, as a foreign fighter has accomplished. Not many at all have done as much & those boots will be tough to fill.
        Yeah spot on great post bro. I agree with everything here. He has still achieved a lot I just wish he'd had less people ducking him.

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          #24
          Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
          Yep absolutely sickened bro, it makes me sick to my stomach. Imagine if GGG was called Gennontae Gennontaeus Gennontus and was from the USA, he'd have a much easier time and Canelo wouldn't be able to lite that boy up like a Christmas tree as he did and he will do in the rematch.
          Can't say I'd like the gennontae name it's a mouthful trying to pronounce all that. And haha we'll see Sept 15th pittapatta bro

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            #25
            Originally posted by Cadilac
            His career went as they wanted. As much money as possible without having to fight anyone.

            Yeah he chased a lot of easy fights with Strum but when a challenge came from Ward they sure had a lot of excuses.
            Great story bro are you a writer?

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              #26
              Originally posted by kidbazooka
              No Sanchez has actually helped him, I know ppl here don’t like Sanchez for his ***** talking but the guy knows his ***** he made Terry Norris what he was Sanchez goes way back. Ggg has always been robotic so if he ever tried outboxing an elite fighter with that crab like posture he wouldn’t have gone undefeated as long as he has.
              I'll agree to disagree bro you make good points I just have a different opinion I suppose.

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                #27
                Originally posted by mvooom
                After watching loads of GGG old clips I ran over here and made his same statement, thinking GGG was much better back then.

                Was corrected instantly, the opponents were available hence all the extras GGG could do.

                After watching it again, i realised the opponents he was fighting were not just available, they were a perfect fit and much weaker too.

                Kell Brook's success surprised most of us, Jacobs did better than most thought he would (some even felt he won) and an almost exhausted Canelo shockingly bounced back in the later rounds.

                Maybe he would have been outboxed, ran or taken back to Germany cuz "American boxing is too advanced" and we would have never known him this much.

                But you are a Canelo hater, so your mind is already made up no matter when anyone says.
                You don't make sense americans too advanced? Golovkin won over 200 am fights faced plenty of styles none too advanced.

                I'm not a canelo hater just saying he's been spoilt by goldenboy. doesn't mean I won't take an objective look from any canelo fan your talking rubbish.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Pat bateman
                  Can't say I'd like the gennontae name it's a mouthful trying to pronounce all that. And haha we'll see Sept 15th pittapatta bro
                  Cool story bro didn't read, feel free to to post the next ten comments in a row in this thread and every other thread.

                  With any luck you should be at 10k posts by tomorrow evening

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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Shontae De'marc
                    Cool story bro didn't read, feel free to to post the next ten comments in a row in this thread and every other thread.

                    With any luck you should be at 10k posts by tomorrow evening
                    ****** kunt I started this thread. So yes it makes sense to reply to people who have quoted me in it.

                    With any luck you might get some brain cells.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Pat bateman
                      ****** kunt I started this thread. So yes it makes sense to reply to people who have quoted me in it.

                      With any luck you might get some brain cells.
                      Cool story bro didn't read again

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