Anyone else sickened by golovkin wasting his prime in Germany?

[Pat bateman]

He was putting forward a hypothetical, GGG doesn't get credit for it he was just saying "if" this happened how do you think his career would've gone.

Spot on, I think he's a canelo fan hence the dislike of my thread.

[S7V7N]

When I look at his career I see alot of what ifs & missed opportunity.

Imagine a 25 year Old golovkin with hbo backing and a better trainer then Sanchez. Say for example it was ggg who knocked jacobs out instead of pirog at the time he could have had a truly great career instead of a good one.

Its a shame to say the least.

I'm not so sure it would have made a difference. Perhaps it would've put a little more pressure on some opponents & raised the paydays to entice better opposition a little earlier, but I'm thinking not.

Golovkin once offered Barker a fight back in 2013 (after GGG was already fighting on HBO) & requested no check, no split needed at all. Barker still turned it down.

Golovkin has been ranked no lower than the #2 MW since 2012 when he made his HBO debut yet not less than 7 current MW champs (at the time) all passed on the opportunity.

TBRB 2012 (Inaugural Rankings)
Middleweight
Champion Sergio Martinez
1. Daniel Geale
2. Gennady Golovkin
3. Felix Sturm
4. Julio Cesar Chavez, Jr.
5. Matthew Macklin
6. Dmitry Pirog
7. Peter Quillin
8. Martin Murray
9. Marco Antonio Rubio
10. Hassan N’Dam Jikam

GGG's lost scalps are filled with fighters who chose easier routes for less money, many passed up career high paydays. It has always been more about risk than the money (unless it's a ridiculous amount) except for a very few. You need that first quality win to get over the hump. That's what the Lemieux PPV provided & started the windfall for Golovkin, yet even still you had several fights fall out with opponents claiming he brought nothing to the table.

Golovkin has definitely gotten some bad breaks with the Sturm avoidance & elevantion, the Pirog injury & then the death of his father that all put off his rise to stardom...or some may say granted him a reprieve from a loss. The butterfly wings beat very quickly indeed, none know how one simple change in history would have affected the next. I'm still happy for what he, as a foreign fighter has accomplished. Not many at all have done as much & those boots will be tough to fill.

[pittapatta66]

Jacobs and Pirog likely would have lit him up like a Christmas tree to be perfectly honest, but I get your point. I never liked Sanchez and still don't, once the dust settles he will be known as a good CONDITIONING trainer but not a good boxing coach AT ALL.

[kidbazooka]

I have to disagree I think a 28 Yr old GGG beats a much younger and inexperienced Jacobs. My dig at Sanchez is referring to gggs style he used to be less one dimensional.

More well rounded more head movement and feinting/shifting. Then Sanchez made him a slugger with an emphasis on one punch power.

If you watch the open workout from last year golovkin shows a brief look at how he used to fight, as he starts shadowboxing watch his style. I dont why he didn't do that in fight abels made him robotic at times.

I agree with everything else good post bro.
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No Sanchez has actually helped him, I know ppl here don’t like Sanchez for his ***** talking but the guy knows his ***** he made Terry Norris what he was Sanchez goes way back. Ggg has always been robotic so if he ever tried outboxing an elite fighter with that crab like posture he wouldn’t have gone undefeated as long as he has.

[Eddy Current]

Yeah it's a bummer he waited until his 30s to fight other top guys. If he sticks around too much longer he'll have to start fighting guys like Sebastian Fundora!

[mvooom]

Definitely a lot of wasted potential. He's still done well for himself and it annoys me a arrogant diva like canelo has had everything on a platter courtesy of goldenboy whereas GGG is humble and respects the sport but wasn't afforded the same opportunitys.

After watching loads of GGG old clips I ran over here and made his same statement, thinking GGG was much better back then.

Was corrected instantly, the opponents were available hence all the extras GGG could do.

After watching it again, i realised the opponents he was fighting were not just available, they were a perfect fit and much weaker too.

Kell Brook's success surprised most of us, Jacobs did better than most thought he would (some even felt he won) and an almost exhausted Canelo shockingly bounced back in the later rounds.

Maybe he would have been outboxed, ran or taken back to Germany cuz "American boxing is too advanced" and we would have never known him this much.

But you are a Canelo hater, so your mind is already made up no matter when anyone says.

[ggg_kz]

Maybe, it's bad and good.
It may be bad because 2006-2011 period was wasted years for him and he could have possibly given much more to the sport of boxing than he has done as of today.
It may be good because he is smart with his career path since debuting in the US, he has learned from his mistakes in Germany, he has built a solid brand and got signed by Jordan, he knows his worth, has stayed focused and thus undefeated. You can't deny he's mature in his overall approach to pro boxing.

We would never know.

[Real King Kong]

Why does GGG always get credit for the unknown?? how do we know Jacobs would not have knocked him out?

What are you a dbn parrot now? Didn't he just make a video on the same subject?

It's almost as bad as mayweather "easily beating" all the guys people say he should have fought in their primes.

[maracho]

Jacob's fight with Pirog wasnt too terribly long before his cancer diagnosis

Sad that Pirog permanently screwed his back up not long afterwards

Ya never know

[dibzvincent143]

What are you a dbn parrot now? Didn't he just make a video on the same subject?

It's almost as bad as mayweather "easily beating" all the guys people say he should have fought in their primes.

Waaaaayyyyy baaad since almost all the guys in Floyd’s resume are what ifs. With the exception of corrales and castillo.

while GGG is the what if.
What if canelo fought him 4 years ago. What if the sergio fight materialized. What if Chavez Jr stepped up as well.