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  • Not ready, plenty of excuses. Nice try though.

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    • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
      The only reason that was called "underwhelming" by some was that they knew Cojanu was
      garbage!
      Look at your own position:

      #1 - Cojanu is GARBAGE
      #2 - Parker is DANGEROUS

      If Cojanu is garbage and if Parker is so dangerous, why didn't Parker destroy him the way Ortiz did?

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      • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
        Look at your own position:

        #1 - Cojanu is GARBAGE
        #2 - Parker is DANGEROUS

        If Cojanu is garbage and if Parker is so dangerous, why didn't Parker destroy him the way Ortiz did?
        Ortiz hits harder than Parker, but Parker is more dangerous than Ortiz because he is more durable, has way more stamina, and doesn't sit down and quit when the going gets tough.

        Kevin Johnson destroyed Pianeta, who just went the distance with Fury. Does that mean Johnson is better than Fury?

        If so, how come Fury schooled a much better version of Johnson than the one who destroyed Pianeta?
        Last edited by kafkod; 08-27-2018, 04:51 PM.

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        • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
          Kevin Johnson destroyed Pianeta, who just went the distance with Fury. Does that mean Johnson is better than Fury?
          better and more dangerous are two different things. you can manipulate refs, you can manipulate judges, you can manipulate a lot of things, but if your fighter gets knocked out cold, there's nothing you can do about it. which is why you keep your valuable fighters away from punchers whenever possible.

          if hearn really believed parker was more dangerous than ortiz, he would have made the ortiz fight.

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          • When is the last time Parker didn't look awful in a fight?

            Dimitrenko?

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            • Originally posted by kafkod View Post
              Ortiz hits harder than Parker, but Parker is more dangerous than Ortiz because he is more durable, has way more stamina, and doesn't sit down and quit when the going gets tough.

              Kevin Johnson destroyed Pianeta, who just went the distance with Fury. Does that mean Johnson is better than Fury?

              If so, how come Fury schooled a much better version of Johnson than the one who destroyed Pianeta?
              You trying to use logic against a troll, it won't work I'm afraid.

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              • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                Nobody said Hearn made a poor business decision. Hearn made a wise business decision. Parker was a much safer fight than Ortiz.




                I don't know the exact figure, but I know Haymon promised he'd make more in a purse bid.
                Hearn and Whyte had no problem fighting Ortiz, but they weren't about to jeopardize the O2 date by risking a purse-bid. Ortiz should have taken the money if he means what he says.

                Parker has a lot more in the tank than Ortiz. At least he's fresh, has a much better resume, and doesn't gas after 2 rounds. Plus he was higher ranked than Ortiz. And we both know how you feel about higher ranked guys don't we?

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                • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                  Hearn and Whyte had no problem fighting Ortiz, but they weren't about to jeopardize the O2 date by risking a purse-bid.
                  Then bid what the fight is worth. And if you lose, that means the O2 date isn't worth keeping because the fight is worth more elsewhere.

                  When you fight Parker with nothing at stake, instead of Ortiz with a guaranteed title shot at stake, it's pretty clear who you consider the safer fight.

                  If Ortiz and Parker signed to fight next, there's no doubt Ortiz would be the betting favorite. Very few experts would consider Parker the more dangerous opponent.

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                  • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    Then bid what the fight is worth. And if you lose, that means the O2 date isn't worth keeping because the fight is worth more elsewhere.

                    When you fight Parker with nothing at stake, instead of Ortiz with a guaranteed title shot at stake, it's pretty clear who you consider the safer fight.

                    If Ortiz and Parker signed to fight next, there's no doubt Ortiz would be the betting favorite. Very few experts would consider Parker the more dangerous opponent.
                    You don't hire venues out and make arrangements only to risk it on a purse-bid. Don't be so ******. Hearn had a PPV fight lined up in London with Whyte in mind. You don't cancel the venue and let a PPV go down the toilet.

                    But Whyte wasn't guaranteed a shot at Wilder had he beat Ortiz. He would have been the second mandatory. Brezeale has been the mandatory for some time, but do you see him getting a fight with Wilder any time soon? No you don't. Whyte would have to wait much longer. It could be 2 years before he gets a shot.

                    Who cares if the overrated Ortiz would be the favourite? My money would go straight on Parker due to being the much fresher of the 2.

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      You don't hire venues out and make arrangements only to risk it on a purse-bid. Don't be so ******. Hearn had a PPV fight lined up in London with Whyte in mind. You don't cancel the venue and let a PPV go down the toilet.
                      If the PPV is so lucrative, then you should be able to bid enough to win. If somebody bids even more, that means you're making more than you would have with PPV, so what's the problem?


                      But Whyte wasn't guaranteed a shot at Wilder had he beat Ortiz. He would have been the second mandatory.
                      Yes, he was guaranteed a shot if he won. Not the next shot, but a guaranteed shot. Whereas beating Parker gained him nothing at all.

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