How highly do you rate Wilder's win against Ortiz?

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  • juggernaut666
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    #11
    Wilder was saved by the bell .

    Normally i have to detract a huge part of the win but i have Ortiz ranked 3 when they fought so i cant do that .

    Im also not sure Ortiz doesnt beat him in a rematch if he stays active but the guy is 48 and was reported not to pass his pre fight physical by the live broadcast Showtime crew ,so you have to see on a fight to fight basis .
    Last edited by juggernaut666; 08-10-2018, 05:56 PM.

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    • sicko
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      #12
      Best way to determine this is to get the other Heavyweights to grow some balls and jump in with King Kong. Me personally I give him huge props for that win giving the fact that he had to comeback when it looked like he was on his way to getting stopped. I also think King Kong destroys the rest of the Heavyweights besides MAYBE...MAYBE AJ. But King Kong would crush guys like Parker Whyte and Miller and I think he would do it EASILY with respects to those guys.

      He is no question Top 3 Heavyweight at the moment behind only AJ and Wilder IMO!

      People call him "OLD" but are afraid to fight him!

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      • Boksfan
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        #13
        Good win against top contender, decent fight, not as good as Wilder fans wants it to be but not as bad as Joshua fans make it to be.

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          #14
          Originally posted by Boxing56
          I just rewatched the fight, was impressed with Wilder's confidence to recover from Ortiz's punches. His punches are dynamite but his technique is still not great. That's why I don't think he gets past Fury.
          Fury has actually been hit quite a lot vs guys with poor technique, he's not hard to hit and has been down by wild right hands. In fact I'd say it's easier for Fury to defend against guys with great technique like a Wlad because it's predictable. You just don't know wtf Wilder is going to do in there.

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            #15
            Scale of 1 through 10, it was about a 7.5 imo.

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              #16
              Originally posted by juggernaut666
              Wilder was saved by the bell .

              Normally i have to detract a huge part of the win but i have Ortiz ranked 3 when they fought so i cant do that .

              Im also not sure Ortiz doesnt beat him in a rematch if he stays active but the guy is 48 and was reported not to pass his pre fight physical by the live broadcast Showtime crew ,so you have to see on a fight to fight basis .
              Ortiz was the one saved by the bell in round 5...Ortiz had half a round to finish Wilder and could not even drop him....

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              • koolkc107
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                #17
                Everyone remembers the 7th round barrage but some folks remember it wrong.

                Wilder was definitely hurt, but he was not "out on his feet".

                Nor should the fight have been stopped.

                Wilder endured the barrage then walked on steady legs back to his corner.

                What folks don't remember quite as much is that Wilder decked Ortiz in the fifth round.

                And Luis was more hurt at the end of the fifth than Wilder was at the end of the seventh.

                Had there been more time left after the 5 round KD, Ortiz doesn't make it out of the round.

                The Ortiz that Wilder beat was still a viable contender for any belt- still is, if his latest KO is any indication.

                Ortiz was and is a better and more dangerous opponent than the Wlad that lost to AJ AND the one Fury beat- that Wlad had shown signs of deterioration prior to those fight. Ortiz has shown zero sign that he isn't as dangerous as ever and apparently most of the division believes this too.

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                  #18
                  ortiz is a dangerous guy. left handed HW with power are rare. they're all throwing baseballs. it's hard to find sparring. ortiz is a unique fighter in a lot of ways, and a dangerous one because of his power.

                  that said, the guy is probably 45 years old. i've heard he and rigondeaux are 50 ! been hearing it about both for years. ortiz' blood pressure is so high he has trouble getting cleared to fight. that's extremely odd for a 39 year old!


                  that said, it's obviosuly a better win than any on joshua's other than klitshcko, and a lot can be said about the klitschko fight as well. wladimir was laid off and all done, he had one last hurrah after 70 fights at 40. and was chinny to begin with.

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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Cutthroat
                    Fury has actually been hit quite a lot vs guys with poor technique, he's not hard to hit and has been down by wild right hands. In fact I'd say it's easier for Fury to defend against guys with great technique like a Wlad because it's predictable. You just don't know wtf Wilder is going to do in there.

                    wladimir was also in his late 30's and had 68 fights. wilder will actually throw punches against a moving target.

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                    • daggum
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by koolkc107
                      Everyone remembers the 7th round barrage but some folks remember it wrong.

                      Wilder was definitely hurt, but he was not "out on his feet".

                      Nor should the fight have been stopped.

                      Wilder endured the barrage then walked on steady legs back to his corner.

                      What folks don't remember quite as much is that Wilder decked Ortiz in the fifth round.

                      And Luis was more hurt at the end of the fifth than Wilder was at the end of the seventh.

                      Had there been more time left after the 5 round KD, Ortiz doesn't make it out of the round.

                      The Ortiz that Wilder beat was still a viable contender for any belt- still is, if his latest KO is any indication.

                      Ortiz was and is a better and more dangerous opponent than the Wlad that lost to AJ AND the one Fury beat- that Wlad had shown signs of deterioration prior to those fight. Ortiz has shown zero sign that he isn't as dangerous as ever and apparently most of the division believes this too.
                      thats why ortiz got a 30 second break between rounds so the doctor could check him. they were trying to cheat wilder!

                      what? he looked crap for years. he looked great vs jennings for sure but since then he looked like the old guy he is. also the lack of peds probably let him down
                      Last edited by daggum; 08-10-2018, 07:57 PM.

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