How highly do you rate Wilder's win against Ortiz?

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  • ELPacman
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    #51
    It was a great win for his career. Ortiz is one of the most skillful heavyweights in the current crop, plus southpaw to boot. I honestly thought Wilder was gonna struggle and he did. What surprised the hell out of me was that he still managed to get it done. Even after recovering from a flu and dropping a decent amount of weight. Ortiz had like a 30+ weight advantage.

    Seriously, by Wilder wiping out Ortiz, he probably cleared out one of the top 3 most skillful fighters in heavy division. I would actually consider Tyson Fury up there also. The dude can frustrate and make himself hard to hit. If Wilder takes care of Tyson too, I'd without a doubt feel nobody else can compete with him in the division. Only age.

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    • koolkc107
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      #52
      Originally posted by The Madison
      cause its the first guy wilder fought he wasnt an absolute scrub so theyve gone way over the top with it. anyone with a pair of eyes could see how much he was slowing down against allen and scott, he was there for the taking.
      I can tell you didn't watch those fights and are just repeating something you saw or heard.

      Let me get you straightened out.

      Malik Scott ran for 12 rounds.

      NO ONE would have looked good against him that fight.
      NO ONE would have knocked him out that fight.

      Malik DID visit the canvas so often he could have gotten his mail delivered there.

      6 or 7 legit KDs, but only 3 ruled officially, it was as one-sided a fight as you would want to see.

      As for Allen, Dave admits Ortiz hurt him badly. And, he says Luis hits harder than AJ, and he should know. And, oh yeah, that was the same Dave Allen that went 12 with Dillian just 5 months earlier- Ortiz got him out of there in 7.

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      • sicko
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        #53
        Originally posted by LacedUp
        Based on what? He was grassfed guys like Malik Scott and Dave Allen and stunk the place out.
        OK well again lets see the other Heavyweights jump in with Ortiz and lets find out. Fans would rather Assuming how things go rather than actually see it out of fear that things won't go the way they want it to go. Me personally, I would much rather see these guys jump in the ring and actually PROVE their the best.

        WBC Ordered Ortiz vs Whyte and he went with Parker. When Ortiz name come up to Big Baby Miller he tend to brush that off and call him "Old"

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        • LacedUp
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          #54
          Originally posted by STREET CLEANER
          Solid win. Wilder was sick before the fight and came underweight.

          If AJ or Whyte would had fought Ortiz then it would had been and excellent win for some people here. Because it was Wilder they minimize it.
          wtf are you even on about.

          Wilder fans are literally saying Ortiz is the next coming when all he's done in his entire career that's worth mentioning (amateur and pro) is losing a competitive fight to Wilder.

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          • LacedUp
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            #55
            Originally posted by sicko
            OK well again lets see the other Heavyweights jump in with Ortiz and lets find out. Fans would rather Assuming how things go rather than actually see it out of fear that things won't go the way they want it to go. Me personally, I would much rather see these guys jump in the ring and actually PROVE their the best.

            WBC Ordered Ortiz vs Whyte and he went with Parker. When Ortiz name come up to Big Baby Miller he tend to brush that off and call him "Old"
            Well, when you're given a chance against guys you're supposed to look good against and you stink the place out, the natural next step is not to say "Oh well, let's not assume he'd be boring vs AJ"

            He got his chance and blew it. Then he was handed a free shot at Wilder and got knocked out.

            Would like mind if he fought some of the other top heavyweights? no. but i'm not demanding it as there are plenty of other fighters who have done more to deserve it like Whyte, and other fights I'd rather like to see like AJ vs Wilder.

            If AJ fought Ortiz and laid him out in 3 rounds, Wilder fans would be the first to say "he's gotten old" or "he wasn't the same as when he fought Wilder" or "he's just Wilder's damaged goods" and we all know this would happen.

            So why bother?

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            • SHO_RULEZ
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              #56
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              Very high, for two reasons. First, Ortiz was the most avoided HW opponent, and secondly, Wilder is the first to defeat AND TKO him.

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              • STREET CLEANER
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                #57
                Originally posted by LacedUp
                wtf are you even on about.

                Wilder fans are literally saying Ortiz is the next coming when all he's done in his entire career that's worth mentioning (amateur and pro) is losing a competitive fight to Wilder.
                WTF are you talking about. Did you even read my post properly.

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                • mathed
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                  #58
                  Great if you consider a 3 week camp to be enough to fully prepare a 45 year old man with a heart condition.

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                  • JuniorTorres720
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                    #59
                    It was the best win in Wilder's resume. Ortiz came to fight and gave him a heck of a fight. He could have beat Wilder if it weren't for the ringside shenanigans by the medical staff checking on Wilder. To this day that whole thing left me confused and frustrated because it took away precious seconds from an Ortiz that could have gone for the kill before gassing like he eventually did.

                    Ortiz is an elite heavyweight and he's up there in age but at heavyweight where power is arguably the biggest factor, it doesn't really matter.

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                    • KingHippo
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                      #60
                      It's a legit win against a top 5 hw. No more, no less.

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