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  • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
    The challenge is simple. Name a better run over a similar number of years. Should be very easy given how unimpressive it is, right?
    Barrera
    Marquez
    Diaz
    Delahoya
    Hatton
    Cotto
    Clottey
    Margarito
    Mosley
    Marquez
    Bradley
    Marquez
    Rios
    Bradley
    Algieri
    Floyd

    There you go. If we gonna neglect being prime or not.
    If we gonna neglect the issues, truths and narratives behind.

    Then Pac has every bit of claim to beat Floyd’s resume from 2007-2015

    Not to mention he did it in 4 weight classes

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    • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
      Floyd was favored in all of these fights. So nothing remarkable.
      Floyd had advantages over most for 1 reason or another.
      Floyd borderline cherry picked some and some were out-right a joke!!!
      A majority of those fights, Floyd stank up the joint. If not for his opponents, they would definitely be snooze fests!!!


      Zab Judah: What did Zab do at 147?
      He lost ~50% of his fights!!! He lost to slow as a turtle, cement feet, no name Baldomir in his previous fight.

      Baldomir: Slow as a turtle, cement feet, no name fighter that beat Judah!!!


      Oscar de la hoya: At that point in time, Oscar was basically retired and more promoter than fighter. Fought 1 fight in about 3 years then fought Floyd.


      Ricky Hatton: Hatton was KING at 140. He had 1 fight at 147 and struggled and some say he should have lost to Collazo. Hatton knew that he had to go back down to 140. After 2 fights at 140, of course, Floyd wants Hatton at …… 147!

      Marquez: 2 fights removed from 130 and never had fought at 140 nor 147. Floyd of course tries and succeeds to pull a fast one. Contract was for 144lbs but Floyd came in a comfortable 146lbs!

      Mosley: 39 years OLD RUSTY as NAILs Mosely had not fought in ~16 months.

      As per Floyd's interview, he said his game plan will take into consideration Mosley is OLD (and RUSTY).




      Ortiz: Quit on his stool a few fights before the Floyd fight. He had just moved up to 147. He squeaked by Berto. Ortiz was knocked down twice!!!


      Cotto: Came off 2 demoralizing devastating KO defeats. Then beat, a guy on 1 leg, a guy with 1 eye, and a guy with more bark than substance. This just like many of Floyd's fights, happened way to late. So that meant, perfect timing for Floyd!!!


      Guerrero: This is now a broken record. Guerrero had just moved up to 147. Beat like everyone else, no defense Berto.


      Canelo: Drained CW 152 Canelo was sitting down during the weigh-in. He said the hardest part about his training camp was making the weight!!!
      Floyd's own team even admits that Canelo was too green, not ready, low work rate, no stamina.....



      Maidana (Twice): This was a cherry pick that almost went wrong except, Floyd had the VEGAS judges that gave Maidana little credit. Floyd asked his fans, which cherry pick to fight? Khan or Maidana. Floyd picked the loser of that!

      Pacquiao: Just like some of the other fighters names, this fight happened 5 years too late!! Manny fought injured and everything was stacked in Floyd's favor. VEGAS REF, VEGAS JUDGES, USADA, Nevada SAC...… After we wait 5 years, Floyd was allowed to use a BANNED ILLEGAL IV!!!! WTF!!!


      Berto: What a joke is right. But remember, Ortiz and Guerrero got their fight with Floyd due to their wins against Berto!!!

      HAIL All roads must go thru Berto …..





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      If you are P4P #1 - How do you go into a fight, not being the favourite? And, why does it matter? The top 5 fighters in a division are the top 5 fighters in a division... Was he supposed to magic a boxer from thin air, that he wouldn't be favourite against, to appease your ridiculous (and meaningless) standard of having to be an underdog, to count as a good win...?

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      • Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
        Barrera - Completely finished at that point
        Marquez - Arguably lost
        Diaz - A never was
        Delahoya - Old, completely shot, severely weight drained and had looked terrible vs Forbes the fight prior
        Hatton - KO'd by Floyd and had to be saved by the ref against Lazcano
        Cotto - Battered by Margarito two fights prior. Didn't look great vs Clottey
        Clottey - Lol
        Margarito - KO'd by Mosley two fights prior
        Mosley - Even older and more shot than when he faced Floyd, and looked terrible the fight prior
        Marquez - Lost this fight in all reality
        Bradley - Didn't get a W, and Bradley was vastly overrated anyway
        Marquez - KO6. Looooooooool
        Rios - Lol
        Bradley - See the previous entry. Had also struggled with Provodnikov
        Algieri - Lol
        Floyd - Embarrassed and outclassed in the biggest fight of his career

        There you go. If we gonna neglect being prime or not.
        If we gonna neglect the issues, truths and narratives behind.

        Then Pac has every bit of claim to beat Floyd’s resume from 2007-2015

        Not to mention he did it in 4 weight classes
        You had the nerve to throw in a bunch of Ls. Ha!

        I've given it the same treatment anyway.

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        • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
          You had the nerve to throw in a bunch of Ls. Ha!

          I've given it the same treatment anyway.
          We can do the same to Floyd’s resume as well. So??
          I thought were going by the standard of neglecting the narratives?

          You guys have the nerve to put cotto who already had 2 brutal ko losses.
          Maidana who loss to a mediocre alexander and was about to retire
          Judah coming of a loss
          Marquez who climbed 2 divisions and got cheated on the scales lol
          Hatton who had 1 fight at 147
          Oscar who had 1 fight in 3 years coming off a year lay off
          Mosley 39 yrs old coming off 16’months layoff
          Guerrero? Looool! Was a lightweight like 2 fights ago
          bertoids? Self explanatory
          Manny? 6 yrs too late, already planked against marquez 3 yrs prior

          So what’s your point?

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          • Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
            We can do the same to Floyd’s resume as well. So??
            I thought were going by the standard of neglecting the narratives?

            You guys have the nerve to put cotto who already had 2 brutal ko losses.
            Maidana who loss to a mediocre alexander and was about to retire
            Judah coming of a loss
            Marquez who climbed 2 divisions and got cheated on the scales lol
            Hatton who had 1 fight at 147
            Oscar who had 1 fight in 3 years coming off a year lay off
            Mosley 39 yrs old coming off 16’months layoff
            Guerrero? Looool! Was a lightweight like 2 fights ago
            bertoids? Self explanatory
            Manny? 6 yrs too late, already planked against marquez 3 yrs prior

            So what’s your point?
            The point is nobody can name someone with a better run of wins, while crying about Floyd. Your poor attempt was broken up by Ls.

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            • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
              The point is nobody can name someone with a better run of wins, while crying about Floyd. Your poor attempt was broken up by Ls.
              Thread was entitled consecutive run of opponents lol. Or you gonna twist it since pac’s run of opponents is indeed close or just as good? Hmmm
              Or simply since you are just a fanboy and hate pac?
              Last edited by dibzvincent143; 08-11-2018, 02:54 AM.

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              • Originally posted by dibzvincent143 View Post
                Thread was entitled consecutive run of opponents lol. Or you gonna twist it since pac’s run of opponents is indeed close or just as good? Hmmm
                Or simply since you are just fanboy and hates pac?
                Who says I'm a fanboy, and who says I hate Pac? A run with losses sprinkled in doesn't compare.

                Also if you'd bothered to read the post I quoted, rather than injecting yourself into the conversation, you'd see why I "trashed" Manny's resume. Or maybe you did see the post, and obviously didn't care because of an obvious bias.

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                • Originally posted by craigus1990 View Post
                  If you are P4P #1 - How do you go into a fight, not being the favourite? And, why does it matter? The top 5 fighters in a division are the top 5 fighters in a division... Was he supposed to magic a boxer from thin air, that he wouldn't be favourite against, to appease your ridiculous (and meaningless) standard of having to be an underdog, to count as a good win...?
                  Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                  You had the nerve to throw in a bunch of Ls. Ha!

                  I've given it the same treatment anyway.

                  Did you guys not read my list carefully?


                  Juan Marquez was NOT the top guy at WW.
                  Hatton went back down to 140!!!
                  Judah had just lost to Baldomir! Mr Consistently Inconsistent!
                  Berto was a joke fight too!
                  Baldomir is a joke!
                  Ortiz quit then was knocked down 2X and got cherry picked by Floyd.
                  Guerrero fought Berto …. Why AGAIN? Floyd didn't even know who he was!

                  Number of fights at 147:
                  - Ortiz = 1 (Berto)
                  - Marquez = 0 (0 at 140 and 147)
                  - Guerrero = 2 (Berto)
                  - Hatton = 1 (went back to 140 before fighting Floyd)



                  There is a time when some of those same names listed made better sense and would have given Floyd more credit. The list provided initially is just based on names and what the fighter did.


                  Example: Juan Marquez was P4P #2.


                  So you want me to just agree with what he did?



                  ==> To your question, Floyd avoided fights when everyone wanted them. They were too risky.

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                  Last edited by ADP02; 08-11-2018, 03:20 AM.

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                  • Originally posted by ADP02 View Post
                    Did you guys not read my list carefully?


                    Juan Marquez was NOT the top guy at WW.
                    Hatton went back down to 140!!!
                    Judah had just lost to Baldomir! Mr Consistently Inconsistent!
                    Berto was a joke fight too!
                    Baldomir is a joke!
                    Ortiz quit then was knocked down 2X and got cherry picked by Floyd.
                    Guerrero fought Berto …. Why AGAIN? Floyd didn't even know who he was!

                    Number of fights at 147:
                    - Ortiz = 1 (Berto)
                    - Marquez = 0 (0 at 140 and 147)
                    - Guerrero = 2 (Berto)
                    - Hatton = 1 (went back to 140 before fighting Floyd)



                    There is a time when some of those same names listed made better sense and would have given Floyd more credit. The list provided initially is just based on names and what the fighter did.


                    Example: Juan Marquez was P4P #2.


                    So you want me to just agree with what he did?



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                    Name a better run of wins.

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                    • Originally posted by b00g13man View Post
                      Who says I'm a fanboy, and who says I hate Pac? A run with losses sprinkled in doesn't compare.

                      Also if you'd bothered to read the post I quoted, rather than injecting yourself into the conversation, you'd see why I "trashed" Manny's resume. Or maybe you did see the post, and obviously didn't care because of an obvious bias.
                      You can’t even admit you’re wrong. Twist it more tough guy

                      Thread was about consecutive opponents. Yet you only specified the losses and not even consider pac having a case lol when he in fact does.
                      That’s just me providing an answer for TS.
                      If it’s indeed better is open for discussion or interpretation.

                      You are a floyd fanboy trying so hard to appear objective lol.

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