Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager Confirms Negotiations For Tyson Fury Fight

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"Me and Wilder is the best fight in the division right now, not me and Povetkin," Joshua said to ESPN UK.

Stop **** handling. It's not a good look.

When did I say Povetkin was a better fight than Wilder? I said Povetkin was better than anyone Wilder has FOUGHT. And it's true, he is.

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I would agree if they fight in December, Wilder having been more active will be the heavy favorite.

In another thread I said I doubted this fight happens in December because if I am Fury, I will keep fighting lesser talent until I am all the way back so he is undefeated going into the AJ fight.

From Fury's point of view, yeah, the Joshua fight is a lot more lucrative. But that isn't my problem with this fight. It's the condition Fury is in that bothers me. If he was at his best and he wanted to fight Wilder over Joshua i'd be cool with that. It would be a great fight. But not like this.

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Wilder knocks furys head clean off its shoulders.. I hope it lands in your lap ..lol.

I don't doubt for a second Wilder wins by KO. With the shape Fury is in, even Bellew would knock him out. And he's a Cruiserweight.

Look, you have no standards at all. The evidence stacks up against you. But you want to make out otherwise? No wonder the world laughs at you. Your delusion is off the scale.

[Boxing56]

I don't see Wilder catching Fury at all. I see Fury winning by boring decision.

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He definitely did look like ****, but he has never lost a fight.

wlad looked like **** in his last fight before AJ remember? He gave his belts away in the fight prior to fighting AJ and you still credit AJ.

so whats good for the goose is also good for the gander.

Never losing a fight doesn't cover up that fighting Fury at this point is nothing short of a disgrace.

Wlad kept himself in great shape before fighting Joshua though. He weighed less than he had in years. Fury has been snorting coke and eating junk food to the point of being obese. So it's wildly different.

[JAB5239]

:/ trash fight right now with an unfit Fury with not even a few under him

Mike Tyson was off 4 years and had 4 round under his belt before winning the WBC title again. Bit Klit was off nearly 4 years before beating Sam Peter for the WBC title. Fury is the Lineal champion.. if he thinks he can win he can have his day. Personally I've never thought Fury could beat Wilder.

[Ake-Dawg]

You think the Wilder fight would bring in numbers far above any of Joshua's other fights? Not in the UK he wouldn't. Maybe you get a couple hundred thousand people on PPV over there but that's only due to an American being involved. And for the undisputed title. If it was any other fighter for undisputed, Wilder wouldn't even get that many to pay for the fight in the US. It's all down to Joshua that has people interested.

I'd say 30% was fair. But nothing above that.

No weak B side has ever had a rematch clause. Ever!. Ward got his because he was on the P4P list and had done something before he fought Kovalev. All Wilder has done is nearly lose to an old man with the worst stamina I've ever seen. The rest of his resume is only worth laughing at. So nothing like the Ward situation at all.

Hearn has already agreed to give Wilder half the money in the rematch should he win the first fight. And that is way beyond generous because Joshua would still be the money man. Wilder is nothing more than an opponent who earns nowhere near to what Joshua does. That wouldn't change even if he wins the first fight. Americans wouldn't pay to watch Wilder fight a load of scrubs even if he was undisputed champion. Sorry. So his money situation wouldn't get that much better. He'd earn a bit more, granted. But not much more. Wilder isn't or ever will be a star. That much is clear.

As predicted. So let me get this straight, the more known fighter who poses more danger to Joshua will bring in less equal or less money than previous fights, not to mention all of his fans will get the chance to be in the building when he becomes undisputed? Further Wilder should agree to a deal because the rematch clause would give him a great % split? Because rematches ALWAYS happen. And because you have arbitrarily decided that Wilder is a "weak B-side", he doesn't deserve to get a rematch clause (oh and thank you for examining all of the "weak b-sides" in boxing history for that factoid).

You my friend are worse than the hated Mayweather fans who seemed more interested in how much money Mayweather made than actually seeing the fights. Every point you try and make slants towards Joshua is the money man and nobody deserves to get a piece of the money he generates. Kick rocks!

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How is Joshua number 1? By jumping out of the WBC ratings, avoiding Wilder when Wilder was the only existing champion and picking up the belts stripped from Fury? Fury is still active so he's still the lineal champion, but when he left, Wilder became number 1 and Wilder has never been beaten from that top spot. Joshua STILL isn't ready to fight Wilder: Joshua could have easily requested a WBA exemption and either accepted the $50 million or offered a fair split to fight for the number 1 spot.

A fight with Wilder is a great motivator for Fury, so after the Pianeta fight, I suspect the deal will be to either fight Wilder next (if Fury believes he can beat Wilder), or share a card in December and then have an April 2019 unification.

And Wilder picked up a title that was dropped by Vitali. So what's your point? Delusion is allowing you to think Wilder is some kind of better champion when he got his 1 title the same way Joshua got his 3. So please stop that.

When Fury left, Wladimir took the number 1 spot again. Losing to Fury still made him the second best in the division. Wilder didn't get there by beating Stiverne. That's preposterous. So please stop there as well.

You do know Hearn had already got extra time from the WBA TWICE so he could try and put the Wilder fight together don't you?

Joshua is clearly the number 1 based off every valuable criteria. He has more belts, he's beaten much better fighters, he took the number 1 spot off Wladimir. All Wilder has done in 10 years is beat a decent fighter in Stiverne and a good one in Ortiz. The other 38 guys were bums. Joshua has done much more in half the time. And every legitimate ranking has Joshua as the clear number 1 guy in the division. Saying Wilder is top is nothing more than delusion.

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You could be right or you could be wrong. Plenty of people will pay to watch and find out.

Fury will be fighting on BT sport, not SKY box office. This fight will get very little promotion over here.

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All of that and you STILL cant refute that American PPV sales and Hall of famers GREATLY surpass ANYTHING overseas fighters ever had. Stick to the topic. You tried to say UK fighters were "far more proven", how many of them are on the current or past p4p lists when compared to Americans? how many of them has surpassed lets say, Mayweather in ticket sales? stop doing drugs...

Because that isn't my argument. I've explained to you in a crystal clear way but you're still too ****** to understand. When did I try to argue overseas fighters have sold more tickets and PPV's than Floyd Mayweather? Never. As I say, you're talking about a completely different subject manner. And that's because you're ******.

Saunders has a better resume than Spence, but is he on the P4Plist? No. Yafia has a better win than Spence. Is he on the P4P list? No. Joshua has a better.... You understand now? Overseas fighters are called bums and overrated. Americans who have done much less don't get those kind of insults thrown their way.