Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager Confirms Negotiations For Tyson Fury Fight

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Why is it that when Wilders team were trying to ''negotiate'' with Joshua, they did it all through the media, but with the Fury negotiations it seems to be taking place behind the scenes, like how most fights are made?? Strange that.

Because Hearn was on IFL every day lying about what was going on. Warren is actually trying to make the fight in good faith, so Wilder's side isn't being forced to respond to BS.

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My agenda to legitimize Wilder vs Fury? You are the one with an agenda posting nonstop like some meth head.
The agenda I support is cutting off all Joshua's escape routes to stop him from ducking. For nobody's going to want to see Joshua vs Fury after they see what Wilder does to him.

Yes, you are trying to legitimise the Fury/Wilder fight when it's quite clear it's a **** show.

There are still plenty of fighters Joshua could take on. But he's not ducking anyway. A big offer way beyond Wilder's worth is on the table. It's entirely up to him if he signs or not. Thinking a nobody like him deserves more than that is just beyond the pale of ******.

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Sounds like a lot of brits are scared of this fight happening. Wilder makes a career high payday and becomes the lineal heavyweight champion after he knocks out the undefeated fury. Wilder is on his way to now becoming an international star.

Wilder? International star?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And we are not scared in the slightest. How does it show fear when it's clear Fury isn't ready for this type of fight? It's more like American delusion that considers this to be legit when it couldn't be any further from the truth.

The insecurity and the desperation of you lot is nothing short of laughable.

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Wilder never ducked Klit;
The Klit wanted no part of that Crimson Tide.

Wilder called Klit out November 10, 2015!!!!
It was in Forbes magazine

Wilder was actually on film saying he didn't want to fight Wlad until 2017 where he would be aged a bit more therefore giving him a better chance of winning. I've looked all over the place on YT but it seems someone has pulled the interview down. I wonder who that might have been? Hmmm.

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If they went to the UK & attended a Joshua fight, they might understand. I’m going to his fight in April regardless of who he fights. That will be an event that will be memorable. The drunken songs & chants, I can’t wait to chug some pints & kick it.
And yes, I agree that most of the millennial sheer in the US have grown up privileged with all the tools to be educated at their disposal but they have dumbed down the image of the American Dream. It’s sad because I grew up during a time when the US prided herself on being number 1, not acting like we are better than everybody else on earth.
For what it’s worth, I got nothing but love for the UK & the Queen!!!!
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Wow, respect for being so honest. When I call Americans out and insult them please don't think i'm aiming it at people like you because you seem like a decent kind of guy. It's the others with their arrogance and discrediting fighters that it's aimed at.

Peace.

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As a champion an a fighter who increases the value of the fight far above what any of Joshua's previous fights, Wilder should get between 30-40% of the overall revenue and a rematch clause. Not sure where you get that never in history crap. Boxing has a long history of two way rematch clauses. Ward Kovalev had one and Ward wasn't bringing belts to the table. In a rematch, if in the US, its 50-50 or 55-45 Wilder as the undisputed champ.

Now what you will do is fashion an argument against my opinion while not stating an opinion that can be stated and defended in boxing terms. You will say biggest purse ever or no one knows Wilder. Knowing the former doesn't matter and the latter isn't true and especially won't be true come fight night.

You think the Wilder fight would bring in numbers far above any of Joshua's other fights? Not in the UK he wouldn't. Maybe you get a couple hundred thousand people on PPV over there but that's only due to an American being involved. And for the undisputed title. If it was any other fighter for undisputed, Wilder wouldn't even get that many to pay for the fight in the US. It's all down to Joshua that has people interested.

I'd say 30% was fair. But nothing above that.

No weak B side has ever had a rematch clause. Ever!. Ward got his because he was on the P4P list and had done something before he fought Kovalev. All Wilder has done is nearly lose to an old man with the worst stamina I've ever seen. The rest of his resume is only worth laughing at. So nothing like the Ward situation at all.

Hearn has already agreed to give Wilder half the money in the rematch should he win the first fight. And that is way beyond generous because Joshua would still be the money man. Wilder is nothing more than an opponent who earns nowhere near to what Joshua does. That wouldn't change even if he wins the first fight. Americans wouldn't pay to watch Wilder fight a load of scrubs even if he was undisputed champion. Sorry. So his money situation wouldn't get that much better. He'd earn a bit more, granted. But not much more. Wilder isn't or ever will be a star. That much is clear.

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Thanks to the circumstances (Hearn) the fight everybody wanted to see couldn't get made, and if Fury shows up in reasonable shape then this will be the next best thing. AJ gobblers are just mad that Wilder's looking to jump in front of Joshua in line to fight Fury and has upset Hearn's grand plan of having every meaningful heavyweight fight under his banner. If the fight is going to be another three or four months away then he'll have plenty of time to shift whatever excess weight he has to. FWIW, I don't think this fight is a great matchup for Wilder, if Fury's fit I can see his awkward movement and long reach, as well as him being the one guy in the division who'd have a major height and reach advantage over him, leading to a lot of frustration for him, although that can all be turned around in a moment if he lands a huge punch. At the end of the day I just want to see the best fights. The best fight that could have been made got deliberately sabotaged, so I'll take this as the next best thing, and I don't care if Joshua fanboys are butthurt about it.

There is a massive problem with the nonsense you're spewing. If Joshua and Hearn wanted the Fury fight now, wouldn't they have made a huge offer for the fight? Of course they would. But they have substance and a real sporting mind set so they aren't going to do that until Fury gets back to the best he can be.

But it's good enough for Wilder and his stans because they don't have any substance to speak of. That's why Wilder and his fans are jokes. So fill your boots trying to convince yourselves and the boxing world that this fight is legit, while those with actual intelligence frown upon this hideous stink fest. Good luck.

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You're the dumb one because America having HOF's and PPV stars in the past has nothing to do with how Americans discredit overseas fighters and overrate their own.

Charlo's, Broner, Spence, Wilder, Miller, Jacobs, Andrade, Crawford have what? A few good wins between them? Yet Americans don't go round smearing them all the time. They get all the hype in the world and given credit for doing close to **** all. If Crawford wasn't American you'd rip his resume to bits. But due to him being American you give him all this praise for beating many fighters who aren't even good. They're just decent most of them. The only good wins he has is over a midget in Gamboa and Postal. But you have no problem calling him the best P4P. That wouldn't be afforded if he wasn't American.

Then you have fighters like Saunders, Golovkin, Joshua, Bellew, Whyte, Lomachenko, Parker, Povetkin, Pulev, Fury, Wladimir, Brook, Degale who have many more wins between them and have beaten better fighters than the Americans have, yet they're discredited and smeared all the time. So don't give me this **** about you don't rip off overseas fighters who have done more but give all the hype and praise to lesser fighters because they're American, because you do.

All of that and you STILL cant refute that American PPV sales and Hall of famers GREATLY surpass ANYTHING overseas fighters ever had. Stick to the topic. You tried to say UK fighters were "far more proven", how many of them are on the current or past p4p lists when compared to Americans? how many of them has surpassed lets say, Mayweather in ticket sales? stop doing drugs...

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Yes, you are trying to legitimise the Fury/Wilder fight when it's quite clear it's a **** show.

There are still plenty of fighters Joshua could take on. But he's not ducking anyway. A big offer way beyond Wilder's worth is on the table. It's entirely up to him if he signs or not. Thinking a nobody like him deserves more than that is just beyond the pale of ******.

A lot of people still consider Fury the lineal champion. I know that's inconvenient for you but you shouldn't let your feelings rule your intellect.

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Wilder is one of the best managed boxer at the moment. Has AJ and other fighters to choose from, but chose Fury that looked like crap in his last fight and for sure needs more tune ups.

I wouldn't call acting in a cowardly manner as being the "Best manged fighter" out there. This is a disgrace that should be called on. If Wilder's team had any real faith in him, they wouldn't have given him 38 bums over the last 10 years or even looked at a Fury fight at this point in time. But they don't have any faith in Wilder, this is just more evidence to prove that.