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  • Originally posted by Patsfan bri View Post
    I won the Debate. I usually don’t get mad as I know people on this say silly stuff all the time. I got caught up in all his other post on here to everyone else . It is kinda weird though that he is saying fury has no chance but if it was fury vs AJ he would be singing a different tune. I told him to at least wait til they fight and wilder knocks him out within 7 to say I told so.
    You won the debate? How, by claiming I was telling lies, but when i asked you to point out my lies, it was the one that existed inside your head?


    You're a fruit-loop, man

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    • Originally posted by lion33lit View Post
      If Wilder beats a mediocre Fury or a totally on point Fury - he's got him 1st! Hearn & Joshua WANTED a now flabby ped free PEDvetkin and wouldve gone after Fury NEXT for that huge UK payday, Wilder is learning to be no different at siezing "opportunities" at outwitting Team-Hearn AND the UK public for his legit shot at fighting AJ.....Wilder wants to unify and has to now play chess against a disrespectful crafty greedy Hearn - to capture his king...

      "Pathetic" is Hearn & Joshua. Never in the HISTORY of boxing has such a pathetic offer been offered to another qualified champ under the guise "B-side"! Another GREAT champion in Lennox has expressed not understanding Joshuas CHICKEN actions.....but you can....What a fan!!!!
      Joshua is fighting Povetkin because he's the mandatory you idiot. He has to.

      And Povetkin hasn't been sitting out for 3 years getting obese like Fury has. Do you know how quick Povetkin would knock this version of Fury out? No more than 3 rounds. Wilder taking Fury on proves he's a coward. When is he going to step it up and fight someone legit?

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      • Originally posted by Pigeons View Post
        Head-to-head and historical accomplishments are two different things. Douglas is better than Tyson head-to-head, but Tyson is greater all-time due to his other in-ring accomplishments.

        Either way, I don't know why you're slurping off Joshua. His best win came against a semi-retired 41-year old coming off a loss to Tyson Fury and 17 months of inactivity.
        So you know trying to make out Fury being better was ******? Glad we agree.

        And that 41 year old is better than anything Wilder has done. The Wlad that fought Joshua would smash any version of Wilder up. Just like he used to do in training camp.

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        • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
          It won't make Wilder any more than he's getting now. Joshua is the top guy who brings in the money. Fury doesn't bring ****. Especially a fat ring-rusty version. So AJ will still be the huge A side. Claiming anything else is just deluding yourself.
          I think you are wrong about Wilder only making his normal $2.0 million for this fight. If the fight is in the UK it will do well and the added Showtime revenue will sweeten the pot. I think maybe $7.0 million for Wilder and $3.0 Million for Fury. I honestly think UK fans will pay to see this fight.

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          • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
            I am pushing for Joshua/Wilder... in April. He's got his mandatory in Povetkin to think about first.

            But a win over this version of Fury doesn't do anything for Wilder at the negotiation table. Sorry, but it doesn't.
            You have pushed for Wilder to sign whatever deal Hearn has put on the table, even though it is substandard according to most of not all boxing experts.

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            • Originally posted by spazdarn View Post
              Wlad fought very well in that fight and nearly won, he wasn't spent by any means.

              Povetkin is the third best heavyweight in the division but if this fight gets made, winner is #1 in the division for me. Personally can't really stand Wilder. As a guy he seems cool, but he's just awful to watch, horrible technique. This fight is far too soon for Fury.
              If Fury wins, all it would mean is him taking Wilder's number 2 spot. So he can't possibly be the number 1 without beating Joshua.

              And if (When) Wilder beats Fury, it will mean less than nothing with the shape Fury is in.

              So no, the number 1 will still be Joshua until he's removed from that position.

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              • Originally posted by adotd View Post
                Why is it that when Wilders team were trying to ''negotiate'' with Joshua, they did it all through the media, but with the Fury negotiations it seems to be taking place behind the scenes, like how most fights are made?? Strange that.
                They were trying to use public pressure to force Eddie to let the fight happen. It wasn't enough

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                • Originally posted by Calibaloc View Post
                  I can. I just don't want to look through all your nonsense you post. You have a personal vendetta against Americans so you would do anything to discredit our fighters, including LIE. So I don't even have to quote you. You're just a troll with an agenda. Nothing more.
                  The irony of this post is beautiful. Well done.

                  Americans do nothing but discredit overseas fighters and overrate their own, even though the overseas fighters are far more proven.

                  You can't point out lies because I haven't written any lies. Just get back to the ones that exist in your head.

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                  • Originally posted by Lemonhead_Jeff View Post
                    I can see how people who are biased toward Hearn & Joshua
                    may misconstrued my comments as being biased against them, but you're becoming overly defensive when others do not share the same lofty opinion about your favorite fighters. I try to talk heavyweight boxing with you, but all you want to talk about are bank balances and celebrity. You're a boxing stan, not a boxing fan, and now you're trying to call the kettle black? You have more nerve, but less brains than I had originally thought.
                    Supporting the arrogant Wilder over Joshua even though Wilder wants crazy demands? And you tell me you're not biased in any way?

                    Sure thing.

                    You have to know what goes on in negotiations because that's how fights are made. We get to see who are the difficult ones who ask for ****** demands, and who are the sensible ones. Joshua is the sensible one here. Expecting Joshua to just give in to Wilder and his pathetic madness is asking for way too much. And yes, biased.

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                    • Originally posted by Sid-Knee View Post
                      So many more Americans would buy PPV's for boxing if they were cheaper? Where are all these many more American fans coming from? They don't seem to turn up when boxing is on basic cable?
                      When boxing is in free TV or basic cable, they get 1M+ viewers. When it's on premium channels (avg $20 per channel per month) the viewers are lower. So yeah, if PPV were $20 the buys would be in the 450k-500k range. Maybe you should read the articles boxingscene posts regarding the pbc fights viewership instead of assuming.

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