Comments Thread For: Wilder's Manager Confirms Negotiations For Tyson Fury Fight

[Calibaloc]

Because that isn't my argument. I've explained to you in a crystal clear way but you're still too ****** to understand. When did I try to argue overseas fighters have sold more tickets and PPV's than Floyd Mayweather? Never. As I say, you're talking about a completely different subject manner. And that's because you're ******.

Saunders has a better resume than Spence, but is he on the P4Plist? No. Yafia has a better win than Spence. Is he on the P4P list? No. Joshua has a better.... You understand now? Overseas fighters are called bums and overrated. Americans who have done much less don't get those kind of insults thrown their way.

No ****** you said "far more proven" if they were why are they no selling like American fighters? Mayweather was an example. What fighter overseas has EVER sold even close to what Mayweather has? THat should tell you that AMERICA IS BOXING. Its overseas fighters DREAM to fight in the U.S.To deny that means your mom should have swallowed ya dumb @$$. Most people don't even know who the hell Yafia is so HOW can he have a better win than spence and Spence is a CHAMPION? There are always more Americans on the p4p list dummy. This sport has been dominated by Americans for decades. I dont hate on overseas fighters but you need to stop comparing because you will make yourself look like what you are, which is an idiot smh

You are traumatized by the sucess of american boxers and youre projecting you frial mindset on this forum. You are weak minded and pitiful. You are a mistake.

[MrRolltide91]

Good fight...

[davefromvancouv]

And Wilder picked up a title that was dropped by Vitali. So what's your point? Delusion is allowing you to think Wilder is some kind of better champion when he got his 1 title the same way Joshua got his 3. So please stop that.

When Fury left, Wladimir took the number 1 spot again. Losing to Fury still made him the second best in the division. Wilder didn't get there by beating Stiverne. That's preposterous. So please stop there as well.

You do know Hearn had already got extra time from the WBA TWICE so he could try and put the Wilder fight together don't you?

Joshua is clearly the number 1 based off every valuable criteria. He has more belts, he's beaten much better fighters, he took the number 1 spot off Wladimir. All Wilder has done in 10 years is beat a decent fighter in Stiverne and a good one in Ortiz. The other 38 guys were bums. Joshua has done much more in half the time. And every legitimate ranking has Joshua as the clear number 1 guy in the division. Saying Wilder is top is nothing more than delusion.

The facts are a little different. There was only one champion when Fury left, and Klitschko was not him. Avoiding Wilder doesn't make you number 1. It makes you a contender. Don't care how many belts you got after the fact...

Joshua wants no part of Wilder right now, so how on earth can he be number 1? This isn't a popularity contest. Joshua has to fight Wilder to be number 1. Totally understandable why he doesn't want to chance it after the Takam and Parker fights. He needs a little more seasoning...

[Holler]

Joshua wants no part of Wilder right now, so how on earth can he be number 1? This isn't a popularity contest. Joshua has to fight Wilder to be number 1. Totally understandable why he doesn't want to chance it after the Takam and Parker fights. He needs a little more seasoning...

Joshua will entertain Wilder, but on his terms only. Guess that comes with being the unified champ with the audience that goes with it.

The facts are that Joshua is number one. He's number one at the box office. He's number one at Boxrec, at Ring, TBRP, anywhere you want to look bar one place, the WBC and their rankings are a joke in any case.

Anyway relax the fight will happen in the next year or so. Each party will give a little and we'll finally see them in the ring together.

[davefromvancouv]

Joshua will entertain Wilder, but on his terms only. Guess that comes with being the unified champ with the audience that goes with it.

The facts are that Joshua is number one. He's number one at the box office. He's number one at Boxrec, at Ring, TBRP, anywhere you want to look bar one place, the WBC and their rankings are a joke in any case.

Anyway relax the fight will happen in the next year or so. Each party will give a little and we'll finally see them in the ring together.

Yes, I agree that boxrec, Ring and others have Joshua at number one, but if you follow the history you'll see Joshua bypassed Wilder to get to that designation. It was a less dangerous route for him, and he should not have been rewarded for this side-stepping tactic in the official ratings. But it is what it is. Those that follow the actual history know what the real deal is.

At any rate, glad to see Fury stepping up to face the oft avoided Wilder. Hopefully, like you say, a Wilder-Joshua fight happens soon...

[juggernaut666]

Yes, I agree that boxrec, Ring and others have Joshua at number one, but if you follow the history you'll see Joshua bypassed Wilder to get to that designation. It was a less dangerous route for him, and he should not have been rewarded for this side-stepping tactic in the official ratings. But it is what it is. Those that follow the actual history know what the real deal is.

At any rate, glad to see Fury stepping up to face the oft avoided Wilder. Hopefully, like you say, a Wilder-Joshua fight happens soon...

When was Joshua supposed to fight Wilder besides the proposed 2018 event that Wilder didnt sign to ?

Who are all these guys that oftenly avoided Wilder ?

Obviously you do not know the history , even guys like Mansour and Briggs 3 years back were looking to fight him . No Haye , Jennings or Povetkin who Wilder avoided bc he COULD have rescheduled the fight .It took years before Wilder accepted Ortiz and then you have Whyte who Wilder wanted 7 Million to fight last year and wont do it for 8 now ? lol

[davefromvancouv]

When was Joshua supposed to fight Wilder besides the proposed 2018 event that Wilder didnt sign to ?

Who are all these guys that oftenly avoided Wilder ?

Obviously you do not know the history , even guys like Mansour and Briggs 3 years back were looking to fight him . No Haye , Jennings or Povetkin who Wilder avoided bc he COULD have rescheduled the fight .It took years before Wilder accepted Ortiz and then you have Whyte who Wilder wanted 7 Million to fight last year and wont do it for 8 now ? lol

Joshua could have fought Wilder as the WBC mandatory, but chose to avoid the most dangerous threat in the division, opting instead to hone his skills, take the easier path and pick up the belts stripped from Fury. I suspect he realized he still wasn't ready for Wilder after the sub-par performances with Takam and Parker (expecting to knock them out in convincing fashion), so he lowballed Wilder with a $12.5 million offer, claiming it was a $40 million fight.

However, Joshua didn't expect the counter offer: $50 million guaranteed against 50% of the profits (specifically requested by Joshua). That's when most people started to realize that Joshua was bluffing the whole time. Especially when Joshua still avoided the fight after Wilder agreed to an improved, but ridiculously low $15 million flat-fee offer to fight on Joshua's home turf (provided the fight was next). Joshua sends the contract with no date or venue and conveniently forgets to request an exemption from the WBA for a unification bout.

Joshua isn't the real champion because he isn't ready to fight Wilder, it doesn't matter how many belts he has. He even admitted as such, saying he won't be be forced into the fight and telling his fans to go train and fight Wilder themselves.

When he IS ready to fight the real champion, he'll offer a fair 60/40 contract. Hopefully, by then, Wilder is even more primed and we have a true megafight, both fighters being confident and ready to go to war!

Until then, Joshua fans will support whoever he fights. But true boxing fans will be frustrated.

[pillowfists98]

Fury is going make some excuse and wuss out. Look at the guy he's fighting next, total bum. If he was really ready for Wilder then he'd be fighting someone decent by now.

[juggernaut666]

Joshua could have fought Wilder as the WBC mandatory, but chose to avoid the most dangerous threat in the division, opting instead to hone his skills, take the easier path and pick up the belts stripped from Fury. I suspect he realized he still wasn't ready for Wilder after the sub-par performances with Takam and Parker (expecting to knock them out in convincing fashion), so he lowballed Wilder with a $12.5 million offer, claiming it was a $40 million fight.

However, Joshua didn't expect the counter offer: $50 million guaranteed against 50% of the profits (specifically requested by Joshua). That's when most people started to realize that Joshua was bluffing the whole time. Especially when Joshua still avoided the fight after Wilder agreed to an improved, but ridiculously low $15 million flat-fee offer to fight on Joshua's home turf (provided the fight was next). Joshua sends the contract with no date or venue and conveniently forgets to request an exemption from the WBA for a unification bout.

Joshua isn't the real champion because he isn't ready to fight Wilder, it doesn't matter how many belts he has. He even admitted as such, saying he won't be be forced into the fight and telling his fans to go train and fight Wilder themselves.

When he IS ready to fight the real champion, he'll offer a fair 60/40 contract. Hopefully, by then, Wilder is even more primed and we have a true megafight, both fighters being confident and ready to go to war!

Until then, Joshua fans will support whoever he fights. But true boxing fans will be frustrated.

When was Joshua a mandatory for Wilder ? If thats the case you may want to go check Wilders mandatory fights . lol

Wait a second , Joshua wasnt ready for Wilder so Hearn puts him in there with Klitchko ready to go in fight 18 in November of 2016 ? lol

The truth is Joshua signed to fight Klitchko in October 2016 , he had a mandatory after that win and a unification fight while Wilder was DEMANDING 50% so Hearn took the Parker fight .

You guys must live in an alternate universe bc the one i live in , sending a contract as well as initiating negotiations to actually fight is not avoiding a fight !

"forgets to request an exemption from the WBA for a unification bout. "

The WBA gave them several extentions to make the fight happen , the WBA agreed to let Joshua fight Wilder as long as a contract was signed so what the F are you talking about ? Ha this gotta be that WBC / Original Zero guy !

Im not even getting into money again bc you guys have no education on it .

I'll just leave it as Wilder makes 1.4 Million on average in 7 title defenses so 40 % on a 2018 U.K fight based on FINKELS numbers is 20 Million !


P.S Hearn predicted an easy win for Wilder against Ortiz by rnd 3 , after seeing Wilder get saved by the bell im pretty sure he likes Joshuas chances considered also he doesnt view him as threatening as Klitchko or Povetkin bc all around style wise he feels hes an easier fight !

[5000boxing]

I don't doubt for a second Wilder wins by KO. With the shape Fury is in, even Bellew would knock him out. And he's a Cruiserweight.

Look, you have no standards at all. The evidence stacks up against you. But you want to make out otherwise? No wonder the world laughs at you. Your delusion is off the scale.

Shut your mouth when your talking to me you holy muppet! Where do you get your information from? AzzHatman or Eddie Spaghetti? Because the rest of the world... and yes,.. including half of your own country, agrees with me!!! GO TO AJ'S INSTAGRAM PAGE AND READ WHAT HIS OWN FANS ARE SAYING!!! LMAO! #Gameover #exposed #give up punk! Lol Fury has to step in and represent your country the right way.. because you AJ cowards are making the entire u.k look bad!!!