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  • Madison Boxing
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    #31
    Originally posted by MDPopescu
    ... Wilder wants to fight AJ only for the money AJ brings... otherwise he wouldn't take the risk and he would fight the Stivernes of the world over and over again...
    yeah, pretty much. he wants the fight cause of the money but hes deluded into thinking he deserves more than hes entitled too. hes like a lot of haymon fighters, deluded.

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      #32
      Whatever the case is, it's pretty obvious that Hearn is delaying the fight between Wilder and A.J. Why he's doing that is anyone's guess.

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        #33
        Originally posted by The Madison
        wilder doesnt scare me one bit. povetkins got just as much of a punchers chance. the usyk gassiev fight is a good example of what happens when youre waiting for that 'one big shot' that never comes.
        Povetkin is a walk through and you know it. AJ is nowhere near as good a boxer as Usyk so that comparison is not a very good one.

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          #34
          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          The wlad win was solid, but it was after fury beat him, do not forget.

          The AJ show can go on but if it does and he hasn't defeated Wilder or Fury he will not get the respect he craves, especially with the way he gave Povetkin, Takam and Parker offers they'd easily accept but played games with Wilder.

          Tell English Rid**** to step up. .
          How much respect does Wilder deserve, really? AJ gets far more respect in the UK than Wilder does here. And I don't believe it is solely because British fans get behind their fighters more. Wilder hasn't proven himself and we all know it.

          Originally posted by The Big Dunn
          No question. Full credit. We can't forget Fury beat Wlad, so in a sense AJ still has some proving to do.
          You have to admit that Wladimir did not fight Fury the same way that he fought Joshua. We haven't seen Klitschko fight like that in a decade.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Derranged
            Whatever the case is, it's pretty obvious that Hearn is delaying the fight between Wilder and A.J. Why he's doing that is anyone's guess.
            High risk, low reward. Although we may ridicule Wilder's style, he has twice the fights that Joshua has & a crazy high KO ratio. That's the high risk. However, since all but one of those wins is against a slew of bums, Wilder is not a big draw. That's the low reward.

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              #36
              Originally posted by SUBZER0ED
              High risk, low reward. Although we may ridicule Wilder's style, he has twice the fights that Joshua has & a crazy high KO ratio. That's the high risk. However, since all but one of those wins is against a slew of bums, Wilder is not a big draw. That's the low reward.
              I really don't have a problem with the fight happening next year.

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                #37
                Originally posted by The Madison
                wilder doesnt scare me one bit. povetkins got just as much of a punchers chance. the usyk gassiev fight is a good example of what happens when youre waiting for that 'one big shot' that never comes.
                in all fairness, aj isn't a southpaw and doesn't have the footwork/movement that usyk has and wilder, is more athletic/explosive than gassiev...aj is gonna get hit at some point. but yea, the safe bet in that fight is similar to the usk vs gassiev fight.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Real King Kong
                  in all fairness, aj isn't a southpaw and doesn't have the footwork/movement that usyk has and wilder, is more athletic/explosive than gassiev...aj is gonna get hit at some point. but yea, the safe bet in that fight is similar to the usk vs gassiev fight.
                  yeah, obviously very different fighters but more often than not in these type of fights at the top level, that one big fight changing shot never lands. if people think joshuas going to come forward with his chin hanging out then they are deluded, he'll be defensive and cagey like he was against parker

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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Derranged
                    Whatever the case is, it's pretty obvious that Hearn is delaying the fight between Wilder and A.J. Why he's doing that is anyone's guess.
                    ... what's to guess about?... Hearn has the younger fighter -- who brings the money on the table, and who holds lower risk money fights ahead...

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                      #40
                      oh, this required another 80 page thread.

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