how come wilders so highly rated all of a sudden?

[The Big Dunn]

parker was a champ and he beat him too. wilders not some massive win, hes just another notch on the belt. 41 year old wlad would have sparked him out. if wilder wants to accept his position at the table then he can get a fight, if not, then the anthony joshua show goes on.

The wlad win was solid, but it was after fury beat him, do not forget.

The AJ show can go on but if it does and he hasn't defeated Wilder or Fury he will not get the respect he craves, especially with the way he gave Povetkin, Takam and Parker offers they'd easily accept but played games with Wilder.

Tell English Rid**** to step up.

regardless, klitschko is well above the level of any wilder opponent. that fight was good experience for aj.

No question. Full credit. We can't forget Fury beat Wlad, so in a sense AJ still has some proving to do.

[xhiddenx87]

Ok so now qe downgrade every fighter in here?
Lol
Chill dude. Wilder's resume is average with some decent wins, ortiz is one of them, he just lacks the other champions whom Joshua already fought.

Thats why they need to fight each other and prove whos the real deal.

And whoever says Joshua is unproven GTFO the dude has champions on his resume period.

Stop hating just push for this fight to happen. But dont follow motorcitycobra or larryxxx on this, they just play the same game of downgrading fighters just so their fighter looks good.

Wilder is power freak
And joshua is a boxer with good fundamentals why people are talking about whos proven or not?
Lets just push for that fight to happen

And yes Joshua is the A side,so this fight is clearly a 60-40 or 70-30 on his favor

[Madison Boxing]

The wlad win was solid, but it was after fury beat him, do not forget.

The AJ show can go on but if it does and he hasn't defeated Wilder or Fury he will not get the respect he craves, especially with the way he gave Povetkin, Takam and Parker offers they'd easily accept but played games with Wilder.

Tell English Rid**** to step up.



No question. Full credit. We can't forget Fury beat Wlad, so in a sense AJ still has some proving to do.

he doesnt need wilder. remember joshua is a young fighter, other opponents will crop up. fury could be a huge fight and if usyk moves up to heavyweight and looks good thats another big fight. his career doesnt revolve around wilder

[MDPopescu]

yeah must be, a lot of them seem awfully threatened about hearn and DAZN

... not much of rocket science here... (I remember what effervescence this forum displayed when Haymon "took over boxing", a few years ago)...

[The Big Dunn]

he doesnt need wilder. remember joshua is a young fighter, other opponents will crop up. fury could be a huge fight and if usyk moves up to heavyweight and looks good thats another big fight. his career doesnt revolve around wilder

This is just ****** dramashow. We know AJ can make money fighting bums in England.

He is better than Wilder and should beat him without issue. I know you desperately want him to remain undefeated. If he doesn't fight Wilder he's a f@g.

[Curt Henning]

... not much of rocket science here... (I remember what effervescence this forum displayed when Haymon "took over boxing", a few years ago)...

yeah everyone is shook of demetrius andrade and big baby miller taking over boxing and all the money and all the big fights! lolol

[Real King Kong]

The wlad win was solid, but it was after fury beat him, do not forget.

The AJ show can go on but if it does and he hasn't defeated Wilder or Fury he will not get the respect he craves, especially with the way he gave Povetkin, Takam and Parker offers they'd easily accept but played games with Wilder.

Tell English Rid**** to step up.



No question. Full credit. We can't forget Fury beat Wlad, so in a sense AJ still has some proving to do.

wlad losing to fury doesn't erase the years of top level experience. he still had enough to test a green fighter and he showed it vs aj. getting those rounds vs wlad was more valuable than the majority of aj's resume combined.

but yea...the division still doesn't have a clear cut top dog, but what else is new, it's boxing. I believe aj vs wilder will happen in the first half of 2019, and hopefully by then fury gets a few fights under his belt and can face the winner if there's no immediate rematch. that should sort out what's what in the division.

[champion4ever]

wasnt long ago he was the laughing stock of the forum, now hes some killer who 'anthony johnson' is running from. Get the **** out of here. Half of you lot arent even his fans, youve seen a bandwagon and youve jumped right on.

All he is is a limited fighter with a big punch, a bit like povetkin, whos suddenly become a cherry pick even though people justified wilders trash CV for years based on him signing up to fight him.

Then he goes life and death with old ortiz (who almost wasnt medically fit for the fight) and now hes something special. And lets make one thing crystal clear, its not revising history to say ortiz was old and unproven, the reason he was considered a dangerous fight is because wilder really is that bad and an old man with some degree of skill could give him fits, which he did.

What you gonna do when wilder loses, start hyping up miller? He must be right up your street, another big mouth who loses his bollocks when push comes to shove. Lets get it straight he flat out ducked pulev amongst others.

Joshuas proven already, he doesnt have to prove **** cause some idiots on a forum are crying about wilder not getting a payday that he doesnt deserve.
Get back in your holes, bunch of bandwagon fans.

That's an easy question to answer. Since Joshua been ducking him. That's how come he's so highly rated all of sudden. It only suggests that he is a lot better than most people think. If not, then he wouldn't be so avoided by the so-called best heavyweight in the world and would become his next challenger instead of Povetkin in September 2018.

[MDPopescu]

he doesnt need wilder. remember joshua is a young fighter, other opponents will crop up. fury could be a huge fight and if usyk moves up to heavyweight and looks good thats another big fight. his career doesnt revolve around wilder

... Wilder wants to fight AJ only for the money AJ brings... otherwise he wouldn't take the risk and he would fight the Stivernes of the world over and over again...

[The Big Dunn]

wlad losing to fury doesn't erase the years of top level experience. he still had enough to test a green fighter and he showed it vs aj. getting those rounds vs wlad was more valuable than the majority of aj's resume combined.

but yea...the division still doesn't have a clear cut top dog, but what else is new, it's boxing. I believe aj vs wilder will happen in the first half of 2019, and hopefully by then fury gets a few fights under his belt and can face the winner if there's no immediate rematch. that should sort out what's what in the division.

I agree. AJ is more proven than Wilder without question.

I am not delusional into believing Wilder is good. I have made it clear I think AJ is better and am only rooting for Wilder because he is American.