how come wilders so highly rated all of a sudden?

[The Big Dunn]

hes limited skill wise but hes an exciting player in the HW division that has been dead for some time. some of us are just happy to see HW boxing and knock outs. nobody at HW is fully proven yet but its good to at least have names and pretty good fighters, I don't see many overrating him they just badly want to see him vs aj and it seems like every excuse in the world is thrown around.

This is a good post. I feel the same.

[GhostofDempsey]

In 40 fights his best win is a nearly 40 year old, fat Cuban who had no signature win of his own. Hype-train is going to keep pricing himself out of AJ fight and focus on becoming 51-0. Can't wait to see the Floyd fans lose their shyt if and when he makes it.

[juggernaut666]

I don't think it's a case of anyone being a Wilder fan now. It's people watch what is going on and see the games AJ and Hearn are playing and are wondering why when most people feel AJ is the better fighter who should win easily.

No one serious denies AJ is running the show either. They are just saying since he is running the show he looks utterly silly when he tries to act like he is a no risk b side that can't get Wilder to fight him.

AJ is going to decide when the fight happens. if he continues to delay it then people are going to blame him. When he offers Wilder less than Parker even though he will generate more revenue, people look at that and question if AJ wants the fight. Some Brit fans and ex pros like Lennox Lewis are saying the same thing.

Guys like you, kafkod, and The Madison are for some reason trying to make it Wilder's fault.

Please go into detail how Hearn and co . played GAMES when Wilder called out Joshua after his 17 th fight and then went on to unify and fight actual top ranked guys while Wilder TRIED getting fights with the Wawrkys and Molinas of boxing ? (Id love to see that one )

You guys continue to post FAKE news on here , Wilder was offered 15 Million ...... WITH a 50% rematch claus in a win on U.S soil .

Parker got 32% which was 7 Million of THAT percentage generated !


Im pretty sure the NORMAL posters will see whats going on and will be wondering about the guy that AGREED to terms the ACTUAL contract in play that he didnt sign and is now back to demanding 50% but Joshua is preventing the fight ? !

[The Big Dunn]

Please go into detail how Hearn and co . played GAMES when Wilder called out Joshua after his 17 th fight and then went on to unify and fight actual top ranked guys while Wilder TRIED getting fights with the Wawrkys and Molinas of boxing ?

You guys continue to post FAKE news on here , Wilder was offered 15 Million ...... WITH a 50% rematch claus in a win .

Parker got 32% which was 7 Million of THAT percentage generated !


Im pretty sure the NORMAL posters will see whats going on and will be wondering about the guy that AGREED to terms the ACTUAL contract in play that he didnt sign and is now back to demanding 50% but Joshua is preventing the fight ? !

Hearn planned to launch DAZN this fall. He wanted to use his biggest attraction-AJ to do so. He didn't want whatever fight AJ was in to be a US PPV because that would eliminate any purchases of DAZN. Hearn needs AJ to fight in a non PPV fight. Povetkin/AJ fits that.

Despite everything we read and heard from Hearn in the end he did exactly what anyone paying attention expected him to do-delayed the AJ/Wilder fight so he could launch DAZN. Cool. Had he just said that most of us would've understood.

As I posted I am not someone that thinks Wilder is the a side or is better than AJ. I do however recognize Wilder has legitimate power that could stop AJ.

[BirdSong]

hard to believe how over rated wilder has become, happens with some fighters

[asotgod123]

This is just ****** dramashow. We know AJ can make money fighting bums in England.

He is better than Wilder and should beat him without issue. I know you desperately want him to remain undefeated. If he doesn't fight Wilder he's a f@g.

AJ is not a better fighter than Wilder. He is more technical as a boxer but we don't even know yet if he is a better boxer than Wilder until they fight. Most folks who are astute are picking Wilder despite the odds being in AJ's favor because of how he boxes.

AJ also has fought only 2 champions - Parker and Charles Martin. Wlad was no longer a champion when he fought AJ - although AJ's delusional fans will say or act like he was. Wlad was summarily embarrassed by an unfit Fury, and then was out for another 18 months. I guess it is convenient for AJ fans (NOT saying you are) to ignore the truth.

I don't know anyone reasonable that will pick Parker and Charles Martin to beat Ortiz. Wilder also will obliterate both of them. Parker came and say Wilder's fight - then he turned the opposite way. Lol...

[juggernaut666]

Hearn planned to launch DAZN this fall. He wanted to use his biggest attraction-AJ to do so. He didn't want whatever fight AJ was in to be a US PPV because that would eliminate any purchases of DAZN. Hearn needs AJ to fight in a non PPV fight. Povetkin/AJ fits that.

Despite everything we read and heard from Hearn in the end he did exactly what anyone paying attention expected him to do-delayed the AJ/Wilder fight so he could launch DAZN. Cool. Had he just said that most of us would've understood.

As I posted I am not someone that thinks Wilder is the a side or is better than AJ. I do however recognize Wilder has legitimate power that could stop AJ.

Sorry but this is nonsense and has nothing to do what i posted !

You didnt actually refute my post bc you know how ridiculous it would be passing blame on the team sending the contract to make the fight .

So Hearn planned to launch DAZN all along by sending a contract to Finkel he held onto for almost 2 weeks which stops the Povetkin fight with a signature ?


Hearn can put the Wilder fight on DAZN ,he has ZERO commitments to anyone concerning Joshua !

[asotgod123]

Please go into detail how Hearn and co . played GAMES when Wilder called out Joshua after his 17 th fight and then went on to unify and fight actual top ranked guys while Wilder TRIED getting fights with the Wawrkys and Molinas of boxing ? (Id love to see that one )

You guys continue to post FAKE news on here , Wilder was offered 15 Million ...... WITH a 50% rematch claus in a win on U.S soil .

Parker got 32% which was 7 Million of THAT percentage generated !


Im pretty sure the NORMAL posters will see whats going on and will be wondering about the guy that AGREED to terms the ACTUAL contract in play that he didnt sign and is now back to demanding 50% but Joshua is preventing the fight ? !

Is it FAKE news that AJ rejected $50 mil to fight Wilder in the US or you just keep conveniently ignoring that? If Parker who generates NADA got 32%, why is Wilder not supposed to get between 35 - 40%, especially factoring just how much money can be made from the US PPV? Every objective person knows who ducked the fight - you AJ protectors keep peddling the lies. AJ's end is very near.

Do you also send contracts without dates and venues? Or you wanna ignore that too?

[The Big Dunn]

Sorry but this is nonsense and has nothing to do what i posted !

You didnt actually refute my post bc you know how ridiculous it would be passing blame on the team sending the contract to make the fight .

So Hearn planned to launch DAZN all along by sending a contract to Finkel he held onto for almost 2 weeks which stops the Povetkin fight with a signature ?


Hearn can put the Wilder fight on DAZN ,he has ZERO commitments to anyone concerning Joshua !

If you think launching a $1 billion streaming service is nonsense, so be it. The contract was designed to be rejected. No adviser in their right mind would agree to a contract that caps the earnings of a fighter for a fight that has such a high earning cieling.

We've seen this before with Floyd/manny and GGG/Canelo so it should be fairly obvious to anyone, even a British boxing fan, that a flat fee offer would be rejected.

If you choose to fixate on "wilder is making more than he ever did" to absolve Hearn/AJ of blame since they made a BS offer, so be it.

[nacho daddy]

is wilder still alive?