what wilder did in 40 fights vs what aj did in 20, or what wilder made in past fights has nothing to do with them fighting, they both give eachother the highest career pays. wilder at least deserves 35%... boxing fans want to see the fight. arguing about who looks better, speaks better, or who earns more will have nothing to do with the outcome of the fight. I hope it happens
how come wilders so highly rated all of a sudden?
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hes limited skill wise but hes an exciting player in the HW division that has been dead for some time. some of us are just happy to see HW boxing and knock outs. nobody at HW is fully proven yet but its good to at least have names and pretty good fighters, I don't see many overrating him they just badly want to see him vs aj and it seems like every excuse in the world is thrown around.
"the ability to do something well; expertise; gift; strength".
In a simplistic way, Wilder's ability to knock people out is a skill which to date he has done better than any heavyweight in the history of the game if we go solely based on finishes.
What are Wilder's strengths? Power, speed, agility, ability to time folks with the right hand, great jab, ability to problem-solve, etc.
How about his gifts? Length, height, power (both a strength and a gift), calmness in the ring, etc.
Not saying you are, but it seems like I keep hearing especially on this boxing site that " Wilder has limited or no skill. He only has power." I think the more appropriate statement is that he is limited technically from a boxing standpoint. Even that is debatable. Wilder can jab, throw the straights, the hook, the uppercut, etc. Because he utilizes some shots more than the others is why he is slated as being limited. Add to that his awkwardness when throwing his shots.
But on the overall, it is my opinion Wilder brings a lot more skill to the table than AJ - stamina, speed, movement, power, agility, etc.Last edited by asotgod123; 07-24-2018, 12:38 PM.Comment
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AJ is not a better fighter than Wilder. He is more technical as a boxer but we don't even know yet if he is a better boxer than Wilder until they fight. Most folks who are astute are picking Wilder despite the odds being in AJ's favor because of how he boxes.
AJ also has fought only 2 champions - Parker and Charles Martin. Wlad was no longer a champion when he fought AJ - although AJ's delusional fans will say or act like he was. Wlad was summarily embarrassed by an unfit Fury, and then was out for another 18 months. I guess it is convenient for AJ fans (NOT saying you are) to ignore the truth.
I don't know anyone reasonable that will pick Parker and Charles Martin to beat Ortiz. Wilder also will obliterate both of them. Parker came and say Wilder's fight - then he turned the opposite way. Lol...Comment
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Wilder is not limited skill-wise. For reference, definition of skill is:
"the ability to do something well; expertise; gift; strength".
In a simplistic way, Wilder's ability to knock people out is a skill which to date he has done better than any heavyweight in the history of the game if we go solely based on finishes.
What are Wilder's strengths? Power, speed, agility, ability to time folks with the right hand, great jab, ability to problem-solve, etc.
How about his gifts? Length, height, power (both a strength and a gift), calmness in the ring, etc.
Not saying you are, but it seems like I keep hearing especially on this boxing site that " Wilder has limited or no skill. He only has power." I think the more appropriate statement is that he is limited technically from a boxing standpoint. Even that is debatable. Wilder can jab, throw the straights, the hook, the uppercut, etc. Because he utilizes some shots more than the others is why he is slated as being limited. Add to that his awkwardness when throwing his shots.
But on the overall, it is my opinion Wilder brings a lot more skill to the table than AJ - stamina, speed, movement, power, agility, etc.
Watch this fool vanish when Joshua knocks wilder out provided wilder finds his pen and signs
Wilder is a d level bum
Look at his freaking resume, it’s full of Uber drivers for crying out loud, he even fought a bus driver Lol
Wilder has little skill and knocking out part time boxers to get to a high ko ratio is not impressive
The world saw the ref give Wilder extra time to recover when Ortiz was ready to take him out
The world also saw wilder duck the true champ
Wilder has avoided
Klitschko, whyte and povetkin
Guess what, two of them aj knocked out and he will knock out the third tooComment
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Is it FAKE news that AJ rejected $50 mil to fight Wilder in the US or you just keep conveniently ignoring that? If Parker who generates NADA got 32%, why is Wilder not supposed to get between 35 - 40%, especially factoring just how much money can be made from the US PPV? Every objective person knows who ducked the fight - you AJ protectors keep peddling the lies. AJ's end is very near.
Do you also send contracts without dates and venues? Or you wanna ignore that too?
Wilder rejected aj in the end and still had the contract to sign
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Was confirmed many times why the date was not in as they were waiting for it from cardif
It is also true wilder was exposed as a liar with the restraining order but ignore that you wilder cuck sucker
It’s also true wilder hid away for 4 weeks refusing to respond to Joshua
It’s also true team wilder went to espn to state they are sending back the contract with notes so the wba saw it and called the fight
Wilder cannot sell a USA Ppv, Joshua has more Ppv buys than wilder has people watching him on non Ppv Lol
Wilder refused 6 time his biggest pay day to duck Joshua
Only you wilder cuck suckers are spreading fake news to deny the truth
Wilder states he would fight in the uk and aj agreed to 50m but wilder tries to be clever and put USA on instead before he got laughed at
He also could not provide a fight contract lmao
Go buy wilder a pen you wankerComment
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Lol is this someone from team Wilde posting
Watch this fool vanish when Joshua knocks wilder out provided wilder finds his pen and signs
Wilder is a d level bum
Look at his freaking resume, it’s full of Uber drivers for crying out loud, he even fought a bus driver Lol
Wilder has little skill and knocking out part time boxers to get to a high ko ratio is not impressive
The world saw the ref give Wilder extra time to recover when Ortiz was ready to take him out
The world also saw wilder duck the true champ
Wilder has avoided
Klitschko, whyte and povetkin
Guess what, two of them aj knocked out and he will knock out the third tooComment
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Wilder is not limited skill-wise. For reference, definition of skill is:
"the ability to do something well; expertise; gift; strength".
In a simplistic way, Wilder's ability to knock people out is a skill which to date he has done better than any heavyweight in the history of the game if we go solely based on finishes.
What are Wilder's strengths? Power, speed, agility, ability to time folks with the right hand, great jab, ability to problem-solve, etc.
How about his gifts? Length, height, power (both a strength and a gift), calmness in the ring, etc.
Not saying you are, but it seems like I keep hearing especially on this boxing site that " Wilder has limited or no skill. He only has power." I think the more appropriate statement is that he is limited technically from a boxing standpoint. Even that is debatable. Wilder can jab, throw the straights, the hook, the uppercut, etc. Because he utilizes some shots more than the others is why he is slated as being limited. Add to that his awkwardness when throwing his shots.
But on the overall, it is my opinion Wilder brings a lot more skill to the table than AJ - stamina, speed, movement, power, agility, etc.Comment
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Wilder is not limited skill-wise. For reference, definition of skill is:
"the ability to do something well; expertise; gift; strength".
In a simplistic way, Wilder's ability to knock people out is a skill which to date he has done better than any heavyweight in the history of the game if we go solely based on finishes.
What are Wilder's strengths? Power, speed, agility, ability to time folks with the right hand, great jab, ability to problem-solve, etc.
How about his gifts? Length, height, power (both a strength and a gift), calmness in the ring, etc.
Not saying you are, but it seems like I keep hearing especially on this boxing site that " Wilder has limited or no skill. He only has power." I think the more appropriate statement is that he is limited technically from a boxing standpoint. Even that is debatable. Wilder can jab, throw the straights, the hook, the uppercut, etc. Because he utilizes some shots more than the others is why he is slated as being limited. Add to that his awkwardness when throwing his shots.
But on the overall, it is my opinion Wilder brings a lot more skill to the table than AJ - stamina, speed, movement, power, agility, etc.
Lets look at his actual title defences against actual opponents ! ( Well )
1 . Molina was not knocked out , in fact he was climbing the ropes trying to get up when the fight was stopped as he casually got up off his back.
2 . Duhaupas wasnot actually finished , the ref waved it off after 11 rnds of hard shots on the ropes .
3 . Szpilka was a legit K.O !
4 . Arreola quit on his stool .
5 . Washington casually walked away as the ref actually distracted him as Wilder hit him . lol
6 . Stiverne was a legit K.O however set up by another back of the head shot the ref was out of position to see .
7 . Ortiz while stopped was on one knee looking at the crown in exhaustion . ( Also took blatent illegal shots even Forearms in this onee to the side of his head . lol )
These are his top wins by stoppage !
Wilders Skills ?
1. Power
2 . Speed
3 . Ring IQ
In order thats them .
He brings more skills then Joshua ?
Really ?
Wilder has weak hooks, inferior body punching , easier to hit , doesnt throw more than 2 punches at a time , has to take half a fight to get someones distance timed usually , does not like getting jabbed at and confuses him , can only excell at long range bc he does know how to really inside fight , has poor balance when he misses power shots bc he needs to belined up almost perfectly to throw a correct technical punch as his feet are a mile apart . .Last edited by juggernaut666; 07-24-2018, 02:03 PM.Comment
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"has done better than any heavyweight in the history of the game if we go solely based on finishes. "
Lets look at his actual title defences against actual opponents ! ( Well )
1 . Molina was not knocked out , in fact he was climbing the ropes trying to get up when the fight was stopped as he casually got up off his back.
2 . Duhaupas wasnot actually finished , the ref waved it off after 11 rnds of hard shots on the ropes .
3 . Szpilka was a legit K.O !
4 . Arreola quit on his stool .
5 . Washington casually walked away as the ref actually distracted him as Wilder hit him . lol
6 . Stiverne was a legit K.O however set up by another back of the head shot the ref was out of position to see .
7 . Ortiz while stopped was on one knee looking at the crown in exhaustion . ( Also took blatent illegal shots even Forearms in this onee to the side of his head . lol )
These are his top wins by stoppage !
Wilders Skills ?
1. Power
2 . Speed
3 . Ring IQ
In order thats them .
He brings more skills then Joshua ?
Really ?
Wilder has weak hooks, inferior body punching , easier to hit , doesnt throw more than 2 punches at a time , has to take half a fight to get someones distance timed usually , does not like getting jabbed at and confuses him , can only excell at long range bc he does know how to really inside fight , has poor balance when he misses power shots bc he needs to belined up almost perfectly to throw a correct technical punch as his feet are a mile apart . .
I will respond to just one of them - Ortiz was on his knee because the referee supported him as he was falling. There are camera angles that show that Ortiz hit the referee on his way down - if not, he would have looked even more awful. Check it out for yourself and let me know what you see.
If by your own statement, Wilder has power, speed and ring IQ, are they not requisites for winning a boxing match? Add to that his reach, height, athleticism, etc.
For all the flack that Wilder takes on here, AJ will not be the same fighter if he was 6'3" in height with a 78" reach. You use what God gave you and whatever skill or training you pick along the way.
FACT: In 40 fights, Wilder has 39 finishes. You can twist them all you like, but that's what his record says. Your idol has 20 or 21 finishes - no matter how much I want to point at the fake stoppages he has received.
Lastly, who said you need to be a good body puncher to win matches? The Klitschko brothers (especially the older) rarely punched the body but were considered some of the best ever.Comment
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