Who is better fighter? Povetkin or Ortiz?

[Stinger1]

It really shows how clueless some posters are on here. How this is even debatable is beyond me. Amateur and professional records are chalk and cheese.

[BodiesInFlight]

Pedvetkin is a 1 dimensional brawler that's it, Ortiz is a gifted boxer puncher that has dominated all comers.

Jennings, Fury, Joshua all proved they were far more skilled than Pedvetkin whom got absolutely dominated by Klitschko.

Boxingscene just goes full ****** when they want to push an agenda.

Povetkin gets annihilated by Wlad=Great fighter
Jennings gives Wlad his toughest fight since 2007=He's a nobody

Yes indeed

[BattlingNelson]

Povetkin by a mile.

[GhostofDempsey]

Povetkin has been in with better competition and has better skills and stamina. Ortiz is a hard puncher who gasses out if he throws more than 35 punches in a round. He was unproven prior to his fight with Wilder. Of course Wilder fangirls will want to discredit Povetkin and are still talking about Ortiz as if he were the second coming of George Foreman.

[Sid-Knee]

I've said it then and I am saying it now. Joshua has not looked the same since that Klitschko fight.

His last two performances have been very uneven. He needs some momentum.

He needs a clean knock out before going into the Wilder fight in order to gain some confidence. Wilder and his team has always been chomping at the bit to fight Joshua because they are confident that overall he is the better fighter.

There's no way if Joshua stands in front of Wilder and exchanges, he lasts the distance. They see a slower and wider power lifter in front of them, who is static with virtually no head movement at all; Which will make him a very vulnerable target for Deontay's one two combination punch.

You wrote it, so own it. Don't make your bull**** excuses.

Joshua has plenty of confidence. He dominated both Takam and Parker whilst being in 1st gear. He didn't badly struggle the way Deontay did. So out of the 2 of them, Joshua is the one sitting pretty. To think you gain more confidence by losing until the knock out and nearly getting taken out by a guy with high blood pressure and 2 rounds of stamina, not forgetting that Ortiz's power has disappeared, is nothing short of delusional.

Joshua is going to use his superior boxing ability to beat Wilder. He'll keep him at range because that's where he's at his best. The same goes for Wilder too because he can't fight on the inside for ****. Joshua will back him up and look to get through to Wilder's **** defence and glass chin by setting up everything with the jab. With Wilder being so wild he'll leave so many openings for Joshua to exploit it will be hilarious. Wilder has never been in the ring with someone as good as Joshua, and yet he's struggled almost every time against his bums. The accuracy and the timing of Joshua is really going to be too much for Wilder. If Wilder looks to go for broke on the front foot, Joshua being good on the counter will take advantage. There isn't anything Wilder can do about that. When it's all said and done people will say AFTER the event that Joshua winning was a forgone conclusion because he had everything in his favour to win. Fighters relying on just their power almost always lose. As will Wilder.

And no, Joshua isn't going to go in there exchanging, that would be ******. He'll set his shots up like he always does. Wilder will be the one swinging wild shots hoping for them to land. But as I say, Joshua being the much better technician will take advantage of that all day long. Once Joshua lands a big shot on that glass chin, Wilder is going over and out. And it won't take long either.

[JWHardin]

LOL yeah against domestic level nobodies

Povetkin won olympic gold, European championships gold x2 world championships gold

Ortiz won: nothing. ....but he won 200 more fights doe!!!

I've read enough of your bs to know you are a moron.

[champion4ever]

You wrote it, so own it. Don't make your bull**** excuses.

Joshua has plenty of confidence. He dominated both Takam and Parker whilst being in 1st gear. He didn't badly struggle the way Deontay did. So out of the 2 of them, Joshua is the one sitting pretty. To think you gain more confidence by losing until the knock out and nearly getting taken out by a guy with high blood pressure and 2 rounds of stamina, not forgetting that Ortiz's power has disappeared, is nothing short of delusional.

Joshua is going to use his superior boxing ability to beat Wilder. He'll keep him at range because that's where he's at his best. The same goes for Wilder too because he can't fight on the inside for ****. Joshua will back him up and look to get through to Wilder's **** defence and glass chin by setting up everything with the jab. With Wilder being so wild he'll leave so many openings for Joshua to exploit it will be hilarious. Wilder has never been in the ring with someone as good as Joshua, and yet he's struggled almost every time against his bums. The accuracy and the timing of Joshua is really going to be too much for Wilder. If Wilder looks to go for broke on the front foot, Joshua being good on the counter will take advantage. There isn't anything Wilder can do about that. When it's all said and done people will say AFTER the event that Joshua winning was a forgone conclusion because he had everything in his favour to win. Fighters relying on just their power almost always lose. As will Wilder.

And no, Joshua isn't going to go in there exchanging, that would be ******. He'll set his shots up like he always does. Wilder will be the one swinging wild shots hoping for them to land. But as I say, Joshua being the much better technician will take advantage of that all day long. Once Joshua lands a big shot on that glass chin, Wilder is going over and out. And it won't take long either.

I don't think you British fanboys really know what's up. The only reason why the fight is being postponed is because Joshua and his team of handlers know what I already know and that is, he is going to get his ass-whooped. So that's why they are protecting him. Wilder is going to fuck him up. Just ask his fellow compatriots Tyson Fury and Lennox Lewis.

Also, you are right. Joshua better try out box Deontay because if he gets in there slugging and throwing those 10 to 15 punch combinations he is going to punch himself out like he did against Klitschko in the fifth round of their bout and then get knocked the Fuck out himself.

Also, Joshua's jab is overrated. There's no way he out jabs Wilder from the outside with a shorter height and reach advantage. He's not a scientific ring surgeon like Luis Ortiz.

Here's the deal. Joshua's last two opponents finished their fight on their feet. While on the other hand, Wilder's last two opponents finished their fight on their asses.

Need I say more?

[DuckAdonis]

Who won an olympic gold medal and who was the sparring partner for odlanier solis in the ams ? Povetkin without a doubt in the amateurs

In the pros they are about even...both 1 loss...with povetkin having the better resume. With PEDs its Povetkin for me in the pros, No PEDs its about even.

[xhiddenx87]

To me ortiz

[Sid-Knee]

I don't think you British fanboys really know what's up. The only reason why the fight is being postponed is because Joshua and his team of handlers know what I already know and that is, he is going to get his ass-whooped. So that's why they are protecting him. Wilder is going to fuck him up. Just ask his fellow compatriots Tyson Fury and Lennox Lewis.

Also, you are right. Joshua better try out box Deontay because if he gets in there slugging and throwing those 10 to 15 punch combinations he is going to punch himself out like he did against Klitschko in the fifth round of their bout and then get knocked the Fuck out himself.

Also, Joshua's jab is overrated. There's no way he out jabs Wilder from the outside with a shorter height and reach advantage. He's not a scientific ring surgeon like Luis Ortiz.

Here's the deal. Joshua's last two opponents finished their fight on their feet. While on the other hand, Wilder's last two opponents finished their fight on their asses.

Need I say more?

That's your deluded opinion, not fact. The fact why the fight isn't happening though is because Wilder refused to sign the contract on some bull**** based on Hearn not having a date or venue when it was clear from the start that he had the WBA looking over his shoulder and needed to move fast and get the contract signed. But no, Wilder's side had to take their time to force the mandatory so they could call duck. Then Wilder went full ****** and asked for half the money otherwise he won't fight. So yeah, it's clear why this fight isn't happening.

If Wilder can find his balls there's a contract waiting for him for April.

The reason Parker and Takam finished on their feet is down to them not going for the win. Both played cute and looked to survive. If you just go in there looking to survive, it's damn hard to get them out of there. Any boxing fan who knows what they're talking about knows this.

Stiverne was shot and completely fat as hell. Who cares if Wilder knocked that bum out. Although it was the first time he's got someone out of there early defending his title. Usually the bums last to the later rounds.

Ortiz came to win so it gave Wilder a lot more options. Povetkin will also come to win so Joshua will look good with this defence. Just watch.