Comments Thread For: Wilder: Eddie Hearn is Not a Guy That You Can Trust

[lfc19titles]

We heard these same remarks already in response to why Pacquiao should have accepted the flat fee when we now know he shouldn't have. Well everybody already knew but the Mayweather fans who ate up every word the Mayweathers said.
The funny thing is Wilder was on the verge of agreeing to the flat fee and the bout being in the UK when the alphabet org stepped in and ordered the Povetkin fight. Now they want him to agree to the same terms for a fight in April when they are unlikely to get such advantageous terms again. When traditionally you're not supposed to look past your next opponent, and also Joshua vs Povetkin could be a real stinker.

Wanker

All wilder had to do was sign and the fight was on
Yet he lost his pen

Wilder is a d level bum

Did Ortiz or guerrero get a percentage vs Floyd ?

Why should wilder? Wilder is a paper champ who has ducked Klitschko and whyte, both guys Joshua knocked out

Wilder earns 2m and is being offered 15m

He is a coward for ducking

[xhiddenx87]

Sorry wilder, but its simple. Dont trust any promoter

[allen23]

Wanker

All wilder had to do was sign and the fight was on
Yet he lost his pen

Wilder is a d level bum

Did Ortiz or guerrero get a percentage vs Floyd ?

Why should wilder? Wilder is a paper champ who has ducked Klitschko and whyte, both guys Joshua knocked out

Wilder earns 2m and is being offered 15m

He is a coward for ducking

just like joshua ducked ortiz and wilder...wilder is the longest serving champ and deserves his credit and payday.

[peplz]

Remain strong Mr. Wilder! The heat will turn up on AJ! The only question he's going to hear from the press is "When are you going to fight Deontay Wilder!" They're not asking about Povetkin, nor Miller, nor Whyte, etc.! Go fight Brezeale, and then fight Fury! All the pressure will be on Joshua! Fat Dan saw this coming months ago:

April 16, 2018:

The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next

If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.

Joshua-Wilder is the exact same situation but for less money. Wilder and his team would be foolish to accept such a laughable offer, and Joshua's camp knows it -- which is why, at this point, all talk the of Joshua-Wilder being next is nothing more than a game boxing fans are not interested in playing.

http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next

Oh goodness I miss the raw dishonesty of Pacquiao fans. The shameless willingness to say whatever to make yourself feel like you're right no matter how easy you can rebuffed is ripe. The entire world knows that Manny Pacquioa was initially offered a 50-50 split off the pot to face Floyd Mayweather which he rejected because he refused to be subjected to random blood and urine drug tests. The 40 million dollar flat fee offer was made to Pacquiao after years of haggling and shenanigans from Bob Arum. Now since it's convenient to pretend that 40 million was Mayweathers initial offer to Pacquiao because it helps you in your blind support of Deontay Wilder your just going to run with that.

[SAINTSTEVE]

Wanker

All wilder had to do was sign and the fight was on
Yet he lost his pen

Wilder is a d level bum

Did Ortiz or guerrero get a percentage vs Floyd ?

Why should wilder? Wilder is a paper champ who has ducked Klitschko and whyte, both guys Joshua knocked out

Wilder earns 2m and is being offered 15m

He is a coward for ducking

I hope you come back on here the day after Wilder KTFO Joshua to admit you were wrong.

[allen23]

Yeah, the only issue with that is Hearn’s initial $12.5 million flat fee was a more serious offer than Wilder’s social media delivered $50 million detail-free take it or leave it no questions asked deal.

Secondly, all this talk of percentages and what Parker negotiated, when Parker ended up with less than $15 million.

Thirdly, Wilder says right here that money wasn’t the issue.

So, apologies to Fat Dan, but as usual he’s irrelevant here.

i wish i was as cool as you..

[mrlopez]

Might be true what Wilder is saying BUT how does he trust his own team of promoters/managers when they cant even get him huge paydays, good opponents and recognition?!?!

[Bronx2245]

Yeah, the only issue with that is Hearn’s initial $12.5 million flat fee was a more serious offer than Wilder’s social media delivered $50 million detail-free take it or leave it no questions asked deal.

Secondly, all this talk of percentages and what Parker negotiated, when Parker ended up with less than $15 million.

Thirdly, Wilder says right here that money wasn’t the issue.

So, apologies to Fat Dan, but as usual he’s irrelevant here.

Wilder's $50 million guarantee offer to AJ was legit! A percentage is better than a flat-fee ALL DAY, EVERYDAY! Ask Pacquiao and McGregor! AJ is a COWARD!

[Bronx2245]

Oh goodness I miss the raw dishonesty of Pacquiao fans. The shameless willingness to say whatever to make yourself feel like you're right no matter how easy you can rebuffed is ripe. The entire world knows that Manny Pacquioa was initially offered a 50-50 split off the pot to face Floyd Mayweather which he rejected because he refused to be subjected to random blood and urine drug tests. The 40 million dollar flat fee offer was made to Pacquiao after years of haggling and shenanigans from Bob Arum. Now since it's convenient to pretend that 40 million was Mayweathers initial offer to Pacquiao because it helps you in your blind support of Deontay Wilder your just going to run with that.

If you can read, the article states "at one point Mayweather offered Pacquiao a $40 million dollar flat-fee..." That doesn't negate all that happened before! Secondly, Pacquiao still wound up getting 40%! Lastly, I'm a big Mayweather fan! Even Mayweather, in the end, knew it was worth it to give Manny 40%!

[cameltoe]

Wilder's $50 million guarantee offer to AJ was legit! A percentage is better than a flat-fee ALL DAY, EVERYDAY! Ask Pacquiao and McGregor! AJ is a COWARD!

Wait a minute- AJ sent a counter offer which Wilder agreed to the terms and then didn’t sign... why are you even still talking about the $50 million? It’s irrelevant.