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  • Kezzer
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    #51
    Originally posted by 1hourRun
    James Degale, E.U bum jr. Luis Ortiz and Kubrat Pulev would agree that Eddie Hearn is not to be trusted.

    Please share your logic behind this? DeGale has often spoke positively of Eddie Hearn, Pulev has nothing to do with Hearn at all that I’m aware of? And Ortiz left to fight wilder rather than fighter Joshua?

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    • Jimmy gold
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      #52
      Yeah and saying u and ur team has 50 million dollars is being honest lol u and your team couldn’t even get Parker to fight u and AJ did lol

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      • gully7
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        #53
        So AJ has to agree to the $50m offer in 24 hours and refusing to have a meeting to discuss the offer but you cry over an offer which doesn't have an exact venue and date (even though they promised it would be the next fight)…

        Wilder has got you Americans under his spell

        Last edited by gully7; 07-19-2018, 07:06 AM.

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        • Fabes88
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          #54
          Originally posted by allen23
          what makes u distinguish joshua as the reigning king? is it because hes the A side? or maybe because be beat klitschko?
          i agree hes the A side from a commercial and financial point of view but its fury who beat the king and wilder is the longest reigning champion with the most wins and highest ko ratio so i think hes entitled to ask for a fair contract which hearn is unwilling to give him
          Please explain to me how you can justify someone making 2 million one fight to 19-20 in the next. Hearn and aj don’t owe anyone a living. Him earning 15 mil is more than fair imo. Especially if Parker ended up with 7

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            #55
            Originally posted by Jimmy gold
            Yeah and saying u and ur team has 50 million dollars is being honest lol u and your team couldn’t even get Parker to fight u and AJ did lol
            The best bit was that Wilder said he had the ****ing money in a bag!!! Absolute amateurs the lot of them.

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              #56
              Originally posted by allen23
              Can all u AJ fans please tell me why after confirming he would fight wilder for 50million and then back ed out o0nce thye offer was officially put on the table??

              u all seem to give out about wilder not signing an unfair contract yet dismiss the fact that joshua was unwilling to sign the contract he asked for...
              What’s the point in rehashing history. Wilder was offered terms since then and accepted so as far as I’m concerned it’s irrelevant. Wilder is a dangerous opponent there’s no denying that. Aj has spent a lot of time collecting the belts in a short amount of fights I think it would be ****** of him to give up home advantage no matter how much money he was offered so I’m glad he declined and sent a counter offer that was then accepted. Not because I don’t want to see the fight but because I think it’s ****** for the a side to give up advantages in a contest like this.

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              • allen23
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                #57
                Originally posted by Stinger1
                Don't be so naive and swallow all of Wilder's B.S. It was a publicity stunt. Why when Eddie asked for a contract did they refuse? Apparently according to a few on here it takes time and money to draft a contract and isn't the way "business is done". But that excuse is laughable, it would take a week and probably $10,000 max for lawyers to draft a contract. Not that much in the grand schemes of things is it?

                Why is Wilder worried so much about the split of the first fight? If he wins like he says he will he'll get his $100m US fight where he would get 50/50. Actually it would probably be more like $120m for a rematch. So that's $60m for Wilder. So why worry about haggling for an extra few mil in the first fight when you'll make $75m over 2 fights?

                I'll tell you why, he knows he's going to LOSE so they'll get a few more paydays against his substandard opposition before cashing in on the AJ fight and retiring.
                Wilder knows hes going to lose?? stfu, like any undefeated world champ he believes hes the best and rightly so..he has unnatural power which is unrivaled by any other heavyweight including joshua and unlike joshua he has great cardio which most likely will be a deciding factor should this fight go past 4-6 rounds. as for the contract yes it was verified 50 million was offered to joshua they just refused to sign it cos truth is they just dont want to, and never have. heavyweight boxing is a sham these days

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                • allen23
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                  #58
                  Originally posted by Bronx2245
                  Remain strong Mr. Wilder! The heat will turn up on AJ! The only question he's going to hear from the press is "When are you going to fight Deontay Wilder!" They're not asking about Povetkin, nor Miller, nor Whyte, etc.! Go fight Brezeale, and then fight Fury! All the pressure will be on Joshua! Fat Dan saw this coming months ago:

                  April 16, 2018:

                  The games being played and why it means Joshua-Wilder won't be next

                  If Joshua (21-0, 20 KOs) wants the fight with Wilder (40-0, 39 KOs) next, it sure doesn't seem that way, regardless of what he says. It's clear in the offer Joshua's promoter, Matchroom Boxing's Eddie Hearn, recently made to the Wilder camp: a flat fee of $12.5 million, take it or leave it, for Wilder's participation in the fight.

                  Of course, $12.5 million large is giant money for most people, but for a fight of this magnitude, it is not a serious offer. If Wilder's team -- managers Al Haymon, Shelly Finkel and Jay Deas and promoter Lou DiBella -- accepted the deal, they would be committing malpractice on behalf of their client.

                  For Team Joshua to take Wilder as a $12.5 million expense without cutting him in for a large percentage of an event that could generate in the high eight figures is a joke. When Joshua faced Joseph Parker to unify their three belts last month, the Parker camp got one-third of the money in the event. Wilder is worth more than that, obviously; he brings the last piece of the undisputed title to the table, he brings a bigger fan base and, on his own, he generates more money than Parker does.

                  If Parker is worth a third, Wilder is easily worth at least that much and probably even a few more points. His side has stated it knows it's not getting 50-50 and hasn't asked for it, but to be offered a flat fee is not a real offer. It's an offer meant for the Joshua team to be able to run around and say, "Hey, we made an offer, and Team Wilder turned it down." It's called playing games, and it's nothing new in boxing.

                  A little history lesson: When we were bogged down in the will-they-or-won't-they nonsense of the Floyd Mayweather-Manny Pacquiao saga, Mayweather at one point offered Pacquiao a flat fee of $40 million. That's monster money, but not in the context of that event. Pacquiao rightfully said no. When the fight was finally made, Pacquiao got 40 percent of the pie and earned well over $100 million.

                  Joshua-Wilder is the exact same situation but for less money. Wilder and his team would be foolish to accept such a laughable offer, and Joshua's camp knows it -- which is why, at this point, all talk the of Joshua-Wilder being next is nothing more than a game boxing fans are not interested in playing.

                  http://www.espn.com/boxing/story/_/i...ean-fight-next
                  excellent post my friend..

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                  • allen23
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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Fabes88
                    Please explain to me how you can justify someone making 2 million one fight to 19-20 in the next. Hearn and aj don’t owe anyone a living. Him earning 15 mil is more than fair imo. Especially if Parker ended up with 7
                    didnt conor mc gregor go from making 3m to close to 100m. size and magnitude of an event makes the money and wilder deserves his payday only an idiot would think otherwise

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                    • 1hourRun
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                      #60
                      Originally posted by Noelanthony
                      Which promoter is in all fairness. Even Floyd Mayweather who has been a promoter for a minute is having **** thrown at his door. Lets not pretend that fighters haven’t spoke out about Shelley. However, Eddie has said a lot of nonsense that even I can’t defend. Having said that It was Winkel that went to the press and said We accept the deal. Am I right in saying that? Team Joshua didnt say Wilder accepted the deal. They made it common knowledge. Then after accepting the deal they say well we accepted but we don’t know the date or the location? That’s b#ll**** because if the fight was scheduled for next year would they have accepted? Off course not so what did they accept the deal on the basis of? Or the just accepted for the sake of accepting?

                      Deontay wants the fight bad I’m not questioning his motivation but his team are not as keen and why should they be. The offer is crap and they feel they are doing a disservice to him money wise by accepting so they were posturing. You know it deep down . The narrative is Joshua don’t want the fight. He has signed it. Yes the flat fee is an insult I agree but use it as motivation. F#ck Joshua up for the disrespect shown. 15 million is still money. Beat Joshua and you call the shots like Mayweather did with De la Hoya
                      When you pass on a record payday in the history of the HW division, that's a automatically loss. Joshua fanboys want to deflect off technicalities in a contract that was drawn-up to be rejected by : financial experts, advisors, managers etc. Joshua lost this one in the history books period, these clowns cant sucker me into such frivolous debate.
                      Originally posted by Kezzer
                      Please share your logic behind this? DeGale has often spoke positively of Eddie Hearn, Pulev has nothing to do with Hearn at all that I’m aware of? And Ortiz left to fight wilder rather than fighter Joshua?
                      Its on record, James Degale EXPOSED Eddie Hearn for being a cheap-skate ; who can argue with how many times Missmatchroom has lost purse-bids?

                      And I'm laughing at how you claim Ortiz decided to fight Wilder over Joshua! How gulligble, Hearns excuse for not delivering the Android was that Luis Ortiz did not perform well enough for the British public! Kubrat Pulev got screwed even after Missmatchroom lost another purse-bid to Epic Sports, Eddie Hearn then lied and said they were not sure they had the funds! In reality they were ducking Kubrat and working on a deal with Joseph Parker behind the scenes! BWAHAHAHAHA!!!
                      Last edited by 1hourRun; 07-19-2018, 07:38 AM.

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