Yeah the $50 million offer...

[Curt Henning]

aj fanboys just continue to dig a deeper hole day by day..i hope theres enough room left for AJs lifeless body in there after wilder snatches his soul

[The plunger man]

This is what Mayweather did imo is wait for someone else to beat Pacquiao and make him irrelevant. Isn't that weak though? Floyd beat Pac after Marquez brutally KO'd him and made him a bit gun shy, but he was too established by then to be made irrelevant by it. So Floyd still had to fight him but for less accolades.

the contract is waiting for wilder to sign with date and venue set and its obvious wilder is the one blocking it now with his 50% demand...so don't give me any of that bull**** lol

[Rubber Ducky]

Wilder fans throw the 50 mill incident like it's some winning hand in this debate, when in reality both have now changed their mind on what they wanted. But there is a slight difference in regards what both did.

Joshua made a flippant remark regarding the $50 mill when asked a question surround the financials of the fight and then changed his mind when the he realised what he'd have to give up to ensure that possible payday.

Wilder actually agreed formally to the 15 mill and even asked for a contract to be drawn up and sent and then stalled the whole process before switching back to his 50/50 demand.

[The plunger man]

aj fanboys just continue to dig a deeper hole day by day..i hope theres enough room left for AJs lifeless body in there after wilder snatches his soul

What are you going to do when joshua knocks wilder into tomorrow ? you need outside hobbies when that happens son because otherwise i see henning ending it

[rickJen]

I think the dynamics of the negotiations had a drastic change when Wilder was almost stopped by a 40 yr old Ortiz.
All of a sudden, it's all about the money.
Can't blame them. Can't imagine what a young lion like AJ would do to him.

[rickJen]

I agree. When AJ said he would fight Wilder for 50 million he meant in England not Alabama. The winner is who wins the fight in the ring. If they don't fight there is no winner.

Exactly.
You don't talk to the media with a huge smile on your face like Wilder did smarting over the $50 million offer as if he won the fight.
Sooo ******.

[Holler]

It's the line you love and we all know,
'He turned down fifty million doe!'
It's posted here ten times a second,
Past 50 million times it's reckoned,
To Wilderites it will never diminish,
There's no argument it cannot finish,
But try to discuss any context,
And you will find them sore perplexed,
Deeper than that they'll never go,
Than 'turned down fifty million doe'

[TheBigLug]

Hearn and AJ want to control the worldwide TV rights, which they wouldn't if they accepted the $50m.

I'm sure AJ would accept $50m purse in theory, who wouldn't? - but Hearn especially knows his cut of that purse is probably not as big as the cut he could make if he controls TV rights. That's why they're making flat fee offers to Wilder too.

$50m sounds a lot, it is, but Hearn's cut isn't enough for him. He wants to own the show. That way even if AJ earns less than the 50m...Hearn still earns more.

You can't just look at a big round figure and focus on that. You have to realise how the other people involved make their money and how stipulations affect their cut.

[Holler]

Hearn and AJ want to control the worldwide TV rights, which they wouldn't if they accepted the $50m.

I'm sure AJ would accept $50m purse in theory, who wouldn't? - but Hearn especially knows his cut of that purse is probably not as big as the cut he could make if he controls TV rights. That's why they're making flat fee offers to Wilder too.

$50m sounds a lot, it is, but Hearn's cut isn't enough for him. He wants to own the show. That way even if AJ earns less than the 50m...Hearn still earns more.

You can't just look at a big round figure and focus on that. You have to realise how the other people involved make their money and how stipulations affect their cut.

It's not just about tv rights. We're really talking 20m because AJ will make at least 30m fighting in the UK. For context, AJ earned $46m last year. So $20m, whilst nice, isn't life changing money for him.

At which point you look at what he's giving up, the disruption to partner agreements, loss of control, dangers of home cooking US style etc. and accepting that offer starts to look a very bad idea.

[champion4ever]

As I see it. The whole premise of this thread to make Deontay Wilder out to be some kind of ordinary voluntary defense which he is not. He is not just some kind of ordinary voluntary defense but a world champion like Anthony Joshua and deserves to be treated as such. They are both fighting in order to determine who would become the next undisputed heavyweight champion of the world. Therefore, they need each other.