Yeah the $50 million offer...

[rickJen]

Obviously, AJ changed his mind and probably realized it's at the cost of giving up home advantage.
No one has explained to me what is so wrong with that.
Do you easily give up if the other side said no to your offer?
Remember, Wilder's goal is to have a shot at being king in the division.
"I WANT JOSHUA!!!" he screamed after seeing AJ dismantle Klitsch.
Fight didn't happen. Negotiations failed.
But why is Wilder and his fans seem to be celebrating just because of the $50 million offer?
Is that all there is to it? You stop negotiating?
Then declare victory despite failing to accomplish the objective?
I don't get the logic.

[boliodogs]

I agree. When AJ said he would fight Wilder for 50 million he meant in England not Alabama. The winner is who wins the fight in the ring. If they don't fight there is no winner.

[Just looking]

Obviously, AJ changed his mind and probably realized it's at the cost of giving up home advantage.
No one has explained to me what is so wrong with that.
Do you easily give up if the other side said no to your offer?
Remember, Wilder's goal is to have a shot at being king in the division.
"I WANT JOSHUA!!!" he screamed after seeing AJ dismantle Klitsch.
Fight didn't happen. Negotiations failed.
But why is Wilder and his fans seem to be celebrating just because of the $50 million offer?
Is that all there is to it? You stop negotiating?
Then declare victory despite failing to accomplish the objective?
I don't get the logic.

Chasing shame with the same energy as ever, don't you?

Obviously, AJ changed his mind and probably realized it's at the cost of giving up home advantage.
No one has explained to me what is so wrong with that.

First thing, Hearn had already said that the fight wouldn't make 50 million as a whole on UK, but in US it could do more. So, or Joshua is ****** or he knew that if his demand were answered the fight would be in the US. Second, what's the need for home advantage? Great boxers of the past, like the great Lewis, fought away a lot. For what reason should Joshua show himself as someone who can't win by himself (as he shows the need for crowd support and maybe something else)?

Do you easily give up if the other side said no to your offer?

I don't know what you meant to say in this, really. Wilder's team went on a month of negotiation, accepting a flat fee and to fight away. This is really showing they want the fight. If Hearn's roadblocks bought him enough time to force the Povetkin fight, it's not on Wilder's team

Then declare victory despite failing to accomplish the objective?

The only victory declared is the exposure of the other side lies, what they did pretty well

I don't get the logic

You don't get logic

[Scipio2009]

Obviously, AJ changed his mind and probably realized it's at the cost of giving up home advantage.
No one has explained to me what is so wrong with that.
Do you easily give up if the other side said no to your offer?
Remember, Wilder's goal is to have a shot at being king in the division.
"I WANT JOSHUA!!!" he screamed after seeing AJ dismantle Klitsch.
Fight didn't happen. Negotiations failed.
But why is Wilder and his fans seem to be celebrating just because of the $50 million offer?
Is that all there is to it? You stop negotiating?
Then declare victory despite failing to accomplish the objective?
I don't get the logic.

60/40 Joshua makes the fight at Wembley, and everyone knows this.

Joshua/Hearn made the mistake of believing their "all the money is in the UK" schtick and tried to short the money; fight does maybe $40m in the UK, Wilder gets $12.5m, Joshua gets $27.5m, and Wilder doesn't say **** because he can't go anywhere else.

Then Wilder offered Joshua $50m, double the money, to not have the fight in the UK. Joshua swerved that, so now it's back to figuring out an actual percentage to handshake on.

[EnglishOxide]

Why did Wilder offer a flat fee? Why not 60/40 or 70/30. That would still eclipse Wilders $15m if his team's projections on the fight are true.

Why should Joshua have travelled for only 50% split when he is the A side?

Wilder never wanted the fight. Only a PR victory. That's why he refused to sign for $15m and only talks of 50/50.

I'm telling you man, when he nearly got knocked out by a 48yr old Ortiz with high blood pressure his people decided to play PR games and were never serious about putting him in with a live dog, let alone the unified champion.

[N/A]

Obviously, AJ changed his mind and probably realized it's at the cost of giving up home advantage.
No one has explained to me what is so wrong with that.

Nothing wrong with it. AJ can do whatever he wants. The problem is UK fanboys lying and saying the offer wasn't real.

[N/A]

I agree. When AJ said he would fight Wilder for 50 million he meant in England

That's a lie.

AJ's comments were in reference to Wilder's side claiming the fight could generate 100 million in the US. Hearn kept claiming Wilder's side was full of **** and the fight couldn't make that much in the US.

So AJ basically said, I don't believe the fight does 100 million in the US, so I'm calling your bluff. If it really can do 100 million, give me 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow.

[Azzie]

It's his privilege to not accept an offer.

[juggernaut666]

That's a lie.

AJ's comments were in reference to Wilder's side claiming the fight could generate 100 million in the US. Hearn kept claiming Wilder's side was full of **** and the fight couldn't make that much in the US.

So AJ basically said, I don't believe the fight does 100 million in the US, so I'm calling your bluff. If it really can do 100 million, give me 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow.

Well you would be familiar with lies bc thats all you do on here . lol

Joshua indicated IF it was 100 million that he would split it 50 / 50 and never said anything about fighting in the U.S .

As a matter of FACT he said IMMEDIATLEY after defeating Klitchko that he was keeping the Wilder fight in the U.K .

Only after he said he would not ask more then 50 million did Finkel try and manipulate the entire situation , which was an outlandish claim that the fight generates 100 million and thats what Joshua was calling them on , he NEVER asked for 50 million to fight Wilder specifically.

Your selective memory forgot this is AFTER Hearn offered 12.5 million , this was a lame attempt on team Wilder to stall negotiations with a 24 hr deadline attached to it .

Instead of actually negotiating the 12.5 they ran with the FAKE news that it was a 100 million generated fight and only a F' ing idiot actually believed that , your probably one aren't you ? lol

[brettWall]

Nothing wrong with changing his mind. Not only did he solidified his position as the A side, but showed it's not all about the money for him. In contrast, it's all about the money for the other side totally eclipsing the objective of having a chance to win 4 more titles.

Wilder was all smiles bragging about the $50 mil offer as if he already won the fight. It's comical. I was thinking to myself, "He has yet to beat AJ in the ring, yet he's acting as if he already won the fight." From then on, the B side would be expected to play harder ball than ever. Fight will never get made. No bending, no humility, only pure arrogance and roadblocks. Good luck doe.