Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager: Maybe This is Hearn's Way of Killing April Too?

[cameltoe]

He ain't squeakin' by Breazeale. He's destroying Breazeale.

Speaks more about the level of competition than it does Wilder’s ability. Which is pretty much the story of his career to date.

[N/A]

This fight is not a 100 + million fight no matter where it takes place.

AJ agreed with you. He was so confident it couldn't produce 100 million in the US that he said, bring me 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow.

They brought the 50 million and he still wouldn't sign.

[cameltoe]

Other than an aged and slow Klitchko who has Joshua beat that is on the ATG list or even a good heavyweight (other than Parker)? No one. Also why does Parker's trainer have the opinion that Deontay KOs Joshua? After all his guy fought AJ and did pretty well.

So, other than the greatest HW champ of this era that-narrow decision aside- hadn’t lost in 10 years and hadn’t been knocked out in decades (that y’all said would expose AJ).

And other than an undefeated, young, dangerous world champion with a granite chin (that y’all said would expose AJ).

Other than that we have Carlos Takam, who is solid competition and (Ortiz aside) would be Wilder’s best name on his resume.

And Dillian Whyte, a dangerous puncher, undefeated at the time and who (Ortiz aside) would again be the best name on Wilder’s resume.

So apart from those four, who has he beaten? Well, Breazeale, who Wilder is fighting next!! LMAO.

Don’t get into a discussion about resumes when you’re backing Wilder. 39 fighters/38 tomato cans and one 48 year old with a heart condition that almost knocked him out.

[cameltoe]

AJ agreed with you. He was so confident it couldn't produce 100 million in the US that he said, bring me 50 million and I'll sign tomorrow.

They brought the 50 million and he still wouldn't sign.

Sign what? Here we go again.

So if AJ doesn’t sign some mythical $50 million nonsense contract, with ZERO details, he’s ducking.

Wilder doesn’t sign a LEGIT contract with just a couple sticking points to be worked out, and it’s still AJ who is ducking.

Think about your logic here.

[j0zef]

Facts are ref jumped in to stop takam fight for no damn reason but to try and keep Joshua ko streak alive we all have eyes and saw fight was in no danger and in fact was working Joshua big tired ass, Parker fight was shyte wasn’t no easy decision neither boxer did anything but you keep relying on bs refs/cards to determine what really happen

I 'keep' relying on facts. Things that are universally reported and agreed. You're trying to put some ridiculous good-god-are-you-an-imbecile spin on both fighters' last 2 fights, which is what Finkle is talking about.

Actual facts are:

Stiverne came in ~15 lbs heavier than normal.
Stiverne did not fight for 23 months before rematching Wilder.
Ortiz had Wilder visibly hurt and stumbling around in the 7th.
Takam got stopped by Joshua.
Takam was losing a near shutout decision, unofficially winning 1 round.
Takam landed 50 punches per Boxrec, about 3x less than Joshua.
Parker lost by average judges score 118-110. Avg fanscores were exactly the same https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZp5iorWkAA3Ria.jpg:large


I'm not sure how ****** you'd have to be to argue that Wilder's last 2 fights were more 'impressive' than Joshua's. If Finkle said 3 fights and included Joshua's struggles against Wlad, he MAY have a point. But he didn't.

[Raggamuffin]

Basically the guy you were responded to was saying that Wilder fans make there points based on lies and obviously false statements.

I know lol, but you have to always debunk the fraud with fraudnicity lmao...!!!

[cameltoe]

I 'keep' relying on facts. Things that are universally reported and agreed. You're trying to put some ridiculous good-god-are-you-an-imbecile spin on both fighters' last 2 fights, which is what Finkle is talking about.

Actual facts are:

Stiverne came in ~15 lbs heavier than normal.
Stiverne did not fight for 23 months before rematching Wilder.
Ortiz had Wilder visibly hurt and stumbling around in the 7th.
Takam got stopped by Joshua.
Takam was losing a near shutout decision, unofficially winning 1 round.
Takam landed 50 punches per Boxrec, about 3x less than Joshua.
Parker lost by average judges score 118-110. Avg fanscores were exactly the same https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZp5iorWkAA3Ria.jpg:large


I'm not sure how ****** you'd have to be to argue that Wilder's last 2 fights were more 'impressive' than Joshua's. If Finkle said 3 fights and included Joshua's struggles against Wlad, he MAY have a point. But he didn't.

Owned. Green K.

[Raggamuffin]

Sign what? Here we go again.

So if AJ doesn’t sign some mythical $50 million nonsense contract, with ZERO details, he’s ducking.

Wilder doesn’t sign a LEGIT contract with just a couple sticking points to be worked out, and it’s still AJ who is ducking.

Think about your logic here.

The problem was it wasn’t mythical.

And the legit contract that you speak of was a trash lowball offer that Wilder STILL agreed to in principle and they still didn’t put a “where and when” date on it.

You won’t say it because you’re a known Joshua **** blower. M

The time of you Joshua **** blowers honoring this fraud is soon coming to an end.

[Raggamuffin]

I 'keep' relying on facts. Things that are universally reported and agreed. You're trying to put some ridiculous good-god-are-you-an-imbecile spin on both fighters' last 2 fights, which is what Finkle is talking about.

Actual facts are:

Stiverne came in ~15 lbs heavier than normal.
Stiverne did not fight for 23 months before rematching Wilder.
Ortiz had Wilder visibly hurt and stumbling around in the 7th.
Takam got stopped by Joshua.
Takam was losing a near shutout decision, unofficially winning 1 round.
Takam landed 50 punches per Boxrec, about 3x less than Joshua.
Parker lost by average judges score 118-110. Avg fanscores were exactly the same https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZp5iorWkAA3Ria.jpg:large


I'm not sure how ****** you'd have to be to argue that Wilder's last 2 fights were more 'impressive' than Joshua's. If Finkle said 3 fights and included Joshua's struggles against Wlad, he MAY have a point. But he didn't.

Actual facts:

Wilder beat Stiverne easy-twice.

Ortiz dazed Wilder in an exciting fight and Ortiz got stopped in exciting fashion.

The Takam fight shouldn’t have been stopped!

The Parker and Takam fights were boring **** shows.

Joshua is afraid of Wilder.

Those are genuine facts. Why...because Wilder AND Joshua fans acknowledge the above.

[BennyBlanco]

Sign what? Here we go again.

So if AJ doesn’t sign some mythical $50 million nonsense contract, with ZERO details, he’s ducking.

Wilder doesn’t sign a LEGIT contract with just a couple sticking points to be worked out, and it’s still AJ who is ducking.

Think about your logic here.

What about your logic?

The Hearn contract had no venue and no date...and had a one-way rematch option for AJ only. What kind of idiot would propose a one-way rematch option when both of the fighters are world champions? Either both of them get it - like the Klitschko fight, even though Klitschko didn't have a title - or neither gets it. Only a complete fool would sign the contract that Hearn sent. It's a Don King contract.

The Wilder contract guaranteed AJ $50 million, with full security and a guarantee, and provided for neutral judges, neutral officials and AJ controlling 50% of the tickets in the venue, plus a mutual rematch option with the rematch happening in the UK.

So what was AJ's response? No thanks, I'd like to fight for significantly less money, on a smaller world stage, and remain completely unknown in the one territory that can make you mega-rich.

So who's acting illogically????