Comments Thread For: Wilder Manager: Maybe This is Hearn's Way of Killing April Too?

[Just looking]

Hearn stated in a recent interview that Wilder deserves less money to face Joshua on a proposed date of April 13, at Wembley in London - because Hearn explains that Joshua's worth will be higher by April - so he deserves to make more money from the fight.

SMH

If he wants more money he should accept the 50 million. They gave up on making more money when they refused it

[Noelanthony]

You don't know what Wilder actually makes. Filed purses are bogus.

Even if you want to go by filed purses, GGG only made 1 million in his last fight, but is still getting 45% against Canelo.

It takes two to create a megafight. Sometimes the whole is greater than the sum of its parts. AJ vs Wilder is a massive fight because both are undefeated, it's UK vs US, it's for the undisputed title, both are the most popular heavyweights in their countries, both are extremely tall, it's a fight people have wanted for a long time.

There has never been a fight that big in boxing history where the B-side got a flat fee. Never. If Parker got 33%, Wilder should be getting around 38-40%. And really whoever is coming to the other guy's country should be compensated additionally for that. So 66/33 in the US or 60/40 in the UK is probably what's fair for this fight.

Yes I agree in a ideal world but who said life is fair?

[Noelanthony]

That was the emptiest critique I have ever read in my life. You must be a teenager.

Yes I’m a teenager , you are pretty sharp at this. Oh well, what now?

[cameltoe]

The problem was it wasn’t mythical.

And the legit contract that you speak of was a trash lowball offer that Wilder STILL agreed to in principle and they still didn’t put a “where and when” date on it.

You won’t say it because you’re a known Joshua **** blower. M

The time of you Joshua **** blowers honoring this fraud is soon coming to an end.

It was a nonsensical offer sent via social media. It was a publicity stunt. Once Hearn called them out on it, they had to scrabble round all their rich friends to try and get a loan to at least show they were able to get the money. They had nothing else.

It was never serious and it shows how pathetic and easily led you Wilder fans are.

[cameltoe]

What about your logic?

The Hearn contract had no venue and no date...and had a one-way rematch option for AJ only. What kind of idiot would propose a one-way rematch option when both of the fighters are world champions? Either both of them get it - like the Klitschko fight, even though Klitschko didn't have a title - or neither gets it. Only a complete fool would sign the contract that Hearn sent. It's a Don King contract.

The Wilder contract guaranteed AJ $50 million, with full security and a guarantee, and provided for neutral judges, neutral officials and AJ controlling 50% of the tickets in the venue, plus a mutual rematch option with the rematch happening in the UK.

So what was AJ's response? No thanks, I'd like to fight for significantly less money, on a smaller world stage, and remain completely unknown in the one territory that can make you mega-rich.

So who's acting illogically????

Here we go again- you Wilder fans just can’t let it go. Literally contradicted yourself in the same post.

“Only a complete fool would sign the contract Hearn sent”

Yet according to you, AJ should have jumped up and signed their $50 million pie in the sky contract quick smart, even though it had no details AT ALL and allowed Wilder’s team to control the whole event!

F*********ks sake!

[cameltoe]

Well, Wilder’s now demanding a 50:50 split. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

[Noelanthony]

Please, don't kid yourself. Anthony is not as polished as you and your fellow British compatriots are led to believe. If he was then "The Bronze Bomber" would be his next opponent but he is not.

In addition, Joshua can run but he cannot hide and eventually he is going to have to step in the ring with Deontay Wilder. Then we will see just how good he really is. Also, to AJ being the more polished fighter; Well that has been the story of Wilder's entire pro career. Every opponent he has ever faced had been more polished and refined than himself but guess what? He knocked them all out and Anthony Joshua wouldn't be any different.

Personally, I don't see him defeating Wilder. I see the same thing that Barry and Eddie Hearn sees. A dangerous and unpredictable fighter with enough punching power that could KO a mule or a bull on any given day, who is challenging there guy who is at his most vulnerable when he is in the ring against an opponent who is naturally taller, faster, smaller, quicker with more punching power and a longer reach than him; Which would make Joshua such an easy knockout victim for Deontay to find.

I have absolutely no qualms in you believing that . I see it slightly different from you. Wilder is athletic and dynamic but he doesn’t use his attributes to his potential. He came up against an ancient ponderous Ortiz and he made Ortiz look like the quicker fighter. We will detonate on that chin you better believe it. Anyone that fights Wilder , at least hits him and we will be no different only this time he will be hit harder than he has ever been hit. All those legs days he missed in the gym the minute he gets hit with the golden bomber uppercut he is hitting the deck. Just to be respectful to your charge too ,we ( it’s a joint effort) are under no illusion that if he connects with the right hand on Joshua’s chin it’s nighty night

[Noelanthony]

After all the proof.. after all we've argued about.. only one of us is still saying the same thing.. and the other is still making excuses.. lol. I understand he's your countryman, but damn.. keep it real. AJ and Eddie spaghetti don't want the fight! Never did.. Hearn knows AJ will lose against Povetkin an he knows 10,000 more people will fill Wembley to see the rematch.. Yea, I know they said Wilder was the April fight.. yea right.. like they really want that smoke in April. .. more like April fools!

What proof?? Yes I admit Eddie’s groans has made Joshua look like a pet hamster. I’m disappointed Joshua has grabbed this situation by the neck and spoke out. Team Wilder are not saints in this either but I will say Wilder has been the most eager to lock horns

[juggernaut666]

Well, Wilder’s now demanding a 50:50 split. if it walks like a duck and quacks like a duck....

Actually he demanded 50% even before negotiations started before he forced Hearn to go the Parker route which also killed that negotiation set up....so here we are again....

[Noelanthony]

I 'keep' relying on facts. Things that are universally reported and agreed. You're trying to put some ridiculous good-god-are-you-an-imbecile spin on both fighters' last 2 fights, which is what Finkle is talking about.

Actual facts are:

Stiverne came in ~15 lbs heavier than normal.
Stiverne did not fight for 23 months before rematching Wilder.
Ortiz had Wilder visibly hurt and stumbling around in the 7th.
Takam got stopped by Joshua.
Takam was losing a near shutout decision, unofficially winning 1 round.
Takam landed 50 punches per Boxrec, about 3x less than Joshua.
Parker lost by average judges score 118-110. Avg fanscores were exactly the same https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DZp5iorWkAA3Ria.jpg:large


I'm not sure how ****** you'd have to be to argue that Wilder's last 2 fights were more 'impressive' than Joshua's. If Finkle said 3 fights and included Joshua's struggles against Wlad, he MAY have a point. But he didn't.

I have to agree with you here