Whos doing a better job making stars pbc or top rank

[killakali]

oh god. another idiot.

haymon assisted with the wbss negotiations. prograis is with churchill management but haymon advises plenty of fighters who have other managers.

we know Haymon has lots of fighters who have managers like Luis DeCubas Jr.

He may have done a one off for the WBSS but that is it. He didn’t “assist” in negotiations for this fight on a top rank show. I guarantee u that and the way Berg and Sam run their ship he won’t have much to do with prograis which u know is a fact.

[SterlingStained]

If top rank was doing a good job promoting its fighters how come fans care more about Errol spence than Terence Crawford.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QVWTvINzki4

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=geXXC_XmjMw

If you look at the views for each fighters interview. More people were interested in Errol spence than Terence Crawford. Plus TC interview came out first.?

terrence crawford is really boring outside the ring. he can also be boring inside the ring as well.

he should date a kardashian just to jump start his q profile.

he has the right pigmentation qualification to date them....

[KTFOKING]

We all know the fight on the app did less than Spence but let's not forget the Spence-Brook fight only did 291k viewers and this Ocampo fight was 683,000 for as long as it lasted.

As for the amount of subscribers I guess Spence isn't must see tv to the point people order showtime to watch his fights.

Crawford may be on channels with more subcribers but the subscriber doesn't have to watch Crawford or boxing for that matter. He is still getting them to watch him.

291k in an afternoon broadcast.

He did around 635k average vs Peterson and peaked at 695k. He bumped that to 683 average vs Ocampo and peaked at 720k. Use those numbers not the Brook fight that wasn't on Primetime. And those numbers are not bad at all. He out did Danny and Mikey's last fights. Believe his numbers at SHO are only behind Wilder and Broner.

Your logic is a dumb one. How does it not matter what network the fight is on? More subscribers will result in more viewers. If you want to use ESPN numbers for Crawford, then surely we could use the NBC numbers for Spence when he fought Algieri? His fight averaged about 1.5 million and peaked at 1.8 million. I mean since the network they fight on is irrelevant, these are the numbers we should use, correct?

[Santa_]

AL HAYMON'S WORLD CHAMPIONS

Deontay Wilder
Adonis Stevenson
Artur Beterbiev
David Benavidez
Jose Uzcategui
Jermall Charlo
Jermell Charlo
Jarrett Hurt
Keith Thurman
Errol Spence
Kiryl Relikh
Regis Prograis
Gervonta Davis
Gary Russell
Leo Santa Cruz
Carl Frampton


BOB ARUM'S WORLD CHAMPIONS

Oleksandr Gvozdyk
Gilberto Ramirez
Terence Crawford
Jose Ramirez
Vasyl Lomachenko
Raymundo Beltran
Oscar Valdez
Isaac Dogboe

[killakali]

291k in an afternoon broadcast.

He did around 635k average vs Peterson and peaked at 695k. He bumped that to 683 average vs Ocampo and peaked at 720k. Use those numbers not the Brook fight that wasn't on Primetime. And those numbers are not bad at all. He out did Danny and Mikey's last fights. Believe his numbers at SHO are only behind Wilder and Broner.

Your logic is a dumb one. How does it not matter what network the fight is on? More subscribers will result in more viewers. If you want to use ESPN numbers for Crawford, then surely we could use the NBC numbers for Spence when he fought Algieri? His fight averaged about 1.5 million and peaked at 1.8 million. I mean since the network they fight on is irrelevant, these are the numbers we should use, correct?

it matters hot it isn’t the end all. Spence had good numbers on NBC. Point is people aren’t running out to subscribe to SHO because of Spence’s fights

[KTFOKING]

it matters hot it isn’t the end all. Spence had good numbers on NBC. Point is people aren’t running out to subscribe to SHO because of Spence’s fights

And folks were running to HBO or are now running to ESPN+ to subscribe for Crawford fights?

[killakali]

And folks were running to HBO or are now running to ESPN+ to subscribe for Crawford fights?

his next fight has already been announced for ESPN in October but they did say that fight vs Horn helped them get to 200k subscribers for ESPN+ so I guess yes some were running to ESPN+

[KTFOKING]

his next fight has already been announced for ESPN in October but they did say that fight vs Horn helped them get to 200k subscribers for ESPN+ so I guess yes some were running to ESPN+

Wait, you think Crawford got ESPN+ 200k subscribers? Haaaaa! Nice joke. Needed a laugh.

[N/A]

we know Haymon has lots of fighters who have managers like Luis DeCubas Jr.

He may have done a one off for the WBSS but that is it. He didn’t “assist” in negotiations for this fight on a top rank show. I guarantee u that and the way Berg and Sam run their ship he won’t have much to do with prograis which u know is a fact.

Never said he was involved in the Top Rank show. Never said Churchill was happy about Haymon starting to weasel his fingers in.

[Willy Wanker]

terrence crawford is really boring outside the ring. he can also be boring inside the ring as well.

he should date a kardashian just to jump start his q profile.

he has the right pigmentation qualification to date them....

Naw man, you seen what Kardashian women do to their men.

If Crawford hooked up with one, he'll start taking Ls this year, overdose in five years, then get a sex change in about ten years.

Tawanna "Rosebud" Crawford in 2030.