Hearn sets the record straight

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Even Hearn now admits the 50 million was real.

Showtime has publicly confirmed it was real.

Where are you getting your info from?

What do you mean by real?

After talking to Haymon and Showtime, Hearn accepted that the fight would have made more money in the States than in the UK, and he said so publically.

But he was not shown any proof of Finkel's $50million guarantee because that offer was off the table by then. Finkel told Hearn that if he did not accept it within 24 hours the offer would be withdrawn.

Are you saying Finkel was lying about that?

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Why you spend time defending the decline of a contract request is beyond me.

Because the "contract request" is a bogus excuse designed to fool gullible fans who have no idea how things work in the boxing business.

If the concepts in the term sheet aren't accepted in principle, you don't go to contract.

Hearn is just making up excuses for why he didn't want to fight Wilder next. He didn't want to accept the 50 million. The term sheet laid out all of the important details. Either those deal points were acceptable or they weren't. If they're not acceptable, nobody is going to draft a contract for a deal that's already known to be unacceptable.

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What do you mean by rea?l

After talking to Haymon and Showtime, Hearn accepted that the fight would have made more money in the States than in the UK, and he said so publically.

But he was not shown any proof of Finkel's $50million guarantee because that offer was off the table by then. Finkel told Hearn that if he did not accept it within 24 hours the offer would be withdrawn.

Are you saying Finkel was lying about that?

Finkel didn't say 24 hours. He said end of tomorrow. Which was put in the offer as a bit of gamesmanship because Eddie's 12.5 million offer had also said Wilder had until the end of tomorrow to accept.

All they did was copy Eddie's own deadline to show how silly it was. Why haven't you criticized Eddie's deadline?

The two sides just spent over a month going back and forth on both the 50 million offer as well as Eddie's revised offer for a UK fight. Which is why it's so obvious Eddie is lying about supposedly not hearing back about his offer for 4 weeks. During that 4 weeks, he admitted there were talks almost every day, meetings took place, etc.

Depending on the interview, Eddie's story completely changes.

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Yeah or the fight is in Wilder's back garden with his brother as ref and his uncles at the judges - None of their contracted partners are welcome to the party and sponsors are of DWs choice.

That is why you would sit down and negotiate those smaller details. But if the purse isn't acceptable regardless of those details, why would you sit down to negotiate those smaller details? Doesn't make any sense.

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That is why you would sit down and negotiate those smaller details. But if the purse isn't acceptable regardless of those details, why would you sit down to negotiate those smaller details? Doesn't make any sense.

Yeah you don’t make any sense. The purse wouldn’t be the point of negotiation, the details would be.

As they said, a simple meeting to negotiate the details and hear about the offer is more than fair and when you’re rejecting that + cancelling a meeting that was already scheduled it shows exactly what they had in mind.

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Yeah you don’t make any sense. The purse wouldn’t be the point of negotiation, the details would be.

So all Hearn had to do was confirm that 50 million would be an acceptable purse if the other details were worked out to his satisfaction. Hearn refused to do that. Hearn likes to play coy, commit to nothing, and then pull a switcheroo on you at the last minute. Which is exactly what we just saw with him trying to move the fight to April.

Finkel has been around forever. He's not going to play those kinds of games. If there was a point in meeting, he would have met. Hearn just wanted the PR opportunity to claim they met to try to make the fight even if the truth was that he didn't want the 50 million offer.

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So all Hearn had to do was confirm that 50 million would be an acceptable purse if the other details were worked out to his satisfaction. Hearn refused to do that. Hearn likes to play coy, commit to nothing, and then pull a switcheroo on you at the last minute. Which is exactly what we just saw with him trying to move the fight to April.

Finkel has been around forever. He's not going to play those kinds of games. If there was a point in meeting, he would have met. Hearn just wanted the PR opportunity to claim they met to try to make the fight even if the truth was that he didn't want the 50 million offer.

if they knew that about hearn, all it would take to trap him, really, is to sign the contract they already agreed to for a november/december fight, instead of waiting 2 weeks to comment.

if they knew that about hearn, all they had to do was meet up with hearn to discuss the details of the 50M offer, AFTER hearn said on camera that he found the offer interesting, but would only accept after meeting to discuss a few points. AJ himself said "let's roll". now, yes, they eventually turned it down because of they wanted to keep home-field advantage, but it wasn't hearn who dragged out the 50M offer episode.

if they knew that about hearn, they would have, at some point, sent hern a real counter-offer WITH a contract containing their own terms, so that hearn would shut up about the no contract talk. they never did. never sent a contract, or even a counter offer for any offers hearn has made so far.

Both sides have been making PR moves. one side has backed up their PR with real verifiable actions. the other side hasn't.

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if they knew that about hearn, all it would take to trap him, really, is to sign the contract they already agreed to for a november/december fight, instead of waiting 2 weeks to comment.

Hearn never sent them a contract for a Nov/Dec fight. That was the problem. The contract made no mention of a date whatsoever and didn't even guarantee the fight would be next. Finkel kept pressing for a date so they could sign and when Hearn finally answered, the date he gave was April.

Wilder was never ever given the chance to sign for Nov/Dec.

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Hearn never sent them a contract for a Nov/Dec fight. That was the problem. The contract made no mention of a date whatsoever and didn't even guarantee the fight would be next. Finkel kept pressing for a date so they could sign and when Hearn finally answered, the date he gave was April.

Wilder was never ever given the chance to sign for Nov/Dec.

lol now you are just leaving facts out. hearn confirmed by email that the fight was next. he told them that the date was going to be in november. he did send them a contract for those dates. and if the dates stuff was such a concern, they could have sent back a signed contract with those details of dates and next fight included as provisions.
finkel didn't "keep pressing" for a date. he agreed the terms of the contract KNOWING the fight was next and in 2018. they knew.

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lol now you are just leaving facts out. hearn confirmed by email that the fight was next. he told them that the date was going to be in november. he did send them a contract for those dates.

hearn was verbally promising the fight was next, but the actual contract didnt reflect that promise. hearn was never willing to sign a contract guaranteeing the fight was next. he strung them along until finally admitting the fight would be in april.

finkel was being told he'd have a date that week. he was going to fill in that date and sign by friday. but when hearn finally have him the date, it was april. hearn never actually wanted the fight next.