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  • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
    The date was blank in the contract and needed to be filled in. Finkel was waiting for Hearn to tell him what to fill in. When Hearn finally gave an answer, he told him to fill in April. That is when Wilder's side walked away from the fight because Hearn broke his promise that the fight would be next.
    That would be speculating, again Hearn is on media talking about this fight not happening in September due to Canelo/GGG rematch (That’s a no brained), he said something along the lines of October/November depending on the availability of Wembley/Cardiff. So no way would he ask Shelly to sign for the fight to happen in April. This looks like Shelly is playing you. I truly believe they both are in on it, which you believing everything Shelly is selling you.

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    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
      shelly has said the contract had no date and when hearn finally emailed him a date, it was april.
      did he not say im sick of waiting for these guys and have to go with pov now because the WBC or whoever have mandated it, but the contract is still on the table, but its for next april now, we will fight u now in april because we cant do this year because of pov

      im just saying what hearn has said in the media, no idea if its true or not, but hearn i persume put down april next year because thats what it came down to after they are doing the pov fight

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      • Originally posted by Ray* View Post
        That would be speculating, again Hearn is on media talking about this fight not happening in September due to Canelo/GGG rematch (That’s a no brained), he said something along the lines of October/November depending on the availability of Wembley/Cardiff. So no way would he ask Shelly to sign for the fight to happen in April. This looks like Shelly is playing you. I truly believe they both are in on it, which you believing everything Shelly is selling you.
        how can you say theres no way hearn would ask them to sign for april when hearn, since last week, has been publicly lobbying for them to sign for april?

        there is still time to sign the fight for 2018. if hearn wanted that, wouldnt he be pressuring them to do that instead of pressuring them to sign for april?

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        • Originally posted by Smash View Post
          did he not say im sick of waiting for these guys and have to go with pov now because the WBC or whoever have mandated it, but the contract is still on the table, but its for next april now, we will fight u now in april because we cant do this year because of pov

          im just saying what hearn has said in the media, no idea if its true or not, but hearn i persume put down april next year because thats what it came down to after they are doing the pov fight
          hearn publicly declared they were fighting povetkin next no matter what, to explain why he wouldnt let wilder sign last week to be next.

          but the wba excuse was bogus because even if the wba ordered a purse bid, that takes weeks. as soon as wilder wanted to sign, thats when hearn finally admited povetkin was next and wilder could only sign for april.

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          • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
            hearn publicly declared they were fighting povetkin next no matter what, to explain why he wouldnt let wilder sign last week to be next.

            but the wba excuse was bogus because even if the wba ordered a purse bid, that takes weeks. as soon as wilder wanted to sign, thats when hearn finally admited povetkin was next and wilder could only sign for april.
            you know what u must be watching different stuff to me thats all i can say. All i saw was hearn saying we want to make this fight oct or nov this year. Thats what i want. Whether he is lying or not is the thing. But thats what he was saying.

            He said, not me, that we waited and waited blah blah etc, we sent the contract weeks ago and have heard nothing, thats what he said. As for the purse bid, has someone DIRECTLY said to hearn, actually eddie can u just go ahead now and shelve pov and make the wilder fight, what did he say?

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            • Originally posted by Smash View Post
              you know what u must be watching different stuff to me thats all i can say. All i saw was hearn saying we want to make this fight oct or nov this year. Thats what i want. Whether he is lying or not is the thing. But thats what he was saying.

              He said, not me, that we waited and waited blah blah etc, we sent the contract weeks ago and have heard nothing, thats what he said. As for the purse bid, has someone DIRECTLY said to hearn, actually eddie can u just go ahead now and shelve pov and make the wilder fight, what did he say?
              i understand your perception is formed by eddie's public statements. but since hes lying, his public statements are worthless.

              ifl isnt going to ask him anything he doesnt want to be asked.

              under wba rules, there was still plenty of time to sign the wilder fight, which is why eddie flat out said its povetkin next no matter what. now nobody is asking him why he wont sign for wilder next because they know its over. but its only over because hearn decided it was. the wilder fight easily could have been signed last week, but eddie already declared it was april or nothing. he always wanted povetkin to be next.

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              • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                as soon as wilder wanted to sign, thats when hearn finally admited povetkin was next and wilder could only sign for april.
                So you are saying that hearn switched contracts somehow? He left the date blank, then suddenly switched april next year in? He must have thought wilder would sign, what was he going to do then, say eh sorry wilder its for next year actually. He would have looked like a right plank for that.

                I dont know what happened exactly but i hope it comes out soon. There are things missing in this, too many holes and stuff that doesnt really add up imo, hearn giving a contract 2 months ago for only april or beyond next year is very strange business practice, having povet all wrapped up long ago too, there were better ways of doing that it would seem to me

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                • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                  shelly has said the contract had no date and when hearn finally emailed him a date, it was april.
                  Yep you believing everything Shelly says. That’s sums it all up.

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                  • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                    i understand your perception is formed by eddie's public statements. but since hes lying, his public statements are worthless.

                    ifl isnt going to ask him anything he doesnt want to be asked.

                    under wba rules, there was still plenty of time to sign the wilder fight, which is why eddie flat out said its povetkin next no matter what. now nobody is asking him why he wont sign for wilder next because they know its over. but its only over because hearn decided it was. the wilder fight easily could have been signed last week, but eddie already declared it was april or nothing. he always wanted povetkin to be next.
                    i dont take any of those guys face value, i just think the process is not right, it just doesnt smell right, something missing imo, but u have your views so thats all good, i could be all wrong

                    who cares now, the fight will happen next year, maybe its for the best, it was getting too messy anyway

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                    • Originally posted by WBC WBA IBF View Post
                      how can you say theres no way hearn would ask them to sign for april when hearn, since last week, has been publicly lobbying for them to sign for april?

                      there is still time to sign the fight for 2018. if hearn wanted that, wouldnt he be pressuring them to do that instead of pressuring them to sign for april?
                      He is now asking them to sign for April AFTER the fight was called off. I thought you know this by now.

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