Comments Thread For: Hearn: At This Stage, I Believe Wilder Does NOT Want Joshua Fight!

[Sid-Knee]

Eddie thinks I dislike him. He is wrong. I just have a difference of opinion with him of what a fact is. When I state something is a fact, I have written proof to back it up. I dare Eddie to do the same.

"To clear up one other fallacy, Eddie knows that they have a written term sheet from us which details our $50 million-dollar offer for Anthony Joshua to fight Deontay Wilder in the U.S. We have never received from them a response to this term sheet.

"Below is the correct chronology of where we are with the contract for the Anthony Joshua Deontay Wilder mega fight:

On June 11, 2018, Deontay Wilder accepted Matchroom’s offer to fight Anthony Joshua in the UK, this took Matchroom by surprise never thinking that Wilder would accept their below-market offer.

Shortly after Eddie Hearn went public saying that we would receive a contract by Friday June 15th. When in fact we did not receive a contract until late on Monday June 18th.

On Tuesday June 19th, we requested a clarification of two points. They did not respond.

I requested them again on Thursday June 21st and we finally received a response on Friday June 22nd.

Two days later on Sunday June 24th, I sent them a letter acknowledging Eddie’s email of June 22, telling them they would have the contract back by Friday June 29th.

"Since the contract did not state the date or the venue, I also asked for that information.

"These are the facts and Matchroom will have the contracts back to them by Friday June 29th," he added.

All being well, fans can begin to look forward to one of the biggest heavyweight fights of the last two decades.

That date and venue mentioned by Finkel will be revealed once Joshua and Wilder have signed their portions of the deal.
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There you go lazy asss. Here's the truth. Keep spinning though.

Did Hearn say he gave a response to the term sheet for it to be a lie?

So the contract took a few days more to get there. That's not a lie. Everything doesn't need to be exact. They got the contract. That's all that matters.

So it took Eddie a few days to get back to them on the 2 questions Finkle had. And?

If this is what you're using to paint Hearn as some kind of liar, then you're going to be laughed off this forum. Nothing there shows Eddie to be a liar.

[OldTerry]

You also heard him say that the offer is 12.5 mill even though it's an old offer. So I wouldn't take any notice of what that idiot says. He doesn't even know what day it is, let alone what's going on in negotiations.

This is really a unwinnable dispute between us but it adds ****e to what both of us must consider a frustrating turn of events.

[Scipio2009]

Good joke. Wilder is a nobody in his own country. It isn't going to be much different in other countries.

Care to share how many countries buy his fights? If not, it's just pure speculation without any credibility to it. I could say Dillian Whyte is known by the whole world plus those who are on the moon, but it wouldn't be credible. Just like your assumption.

Not going to chase down every broadcaster for a non-PPV fight, but Showtime (US), Televisa (Mexico), TSN (Canada), Sky Sports (UK/Ireland), Match TV(Russia), RPC Channel 4 (Panama) and SuperSport (Sub-Saharan Africa) are all confirmed to have had the rights to the fight, and it would not shock me for a moment if Polsat (Poland), Canal Space (Latin America), and Main Event (Australia), among other broadcasters got the fight too.

Dig for another moment and you'd find that CSI Sports scooped up the Wilder-Ortiz rights for roughly 50 countries, and the nation count keeps growing.

Nice try, though

[Iamsmoke89]

It does make you wonder what Wilder is doing. Finkel asks for clarification on 2 points, Hearn gives it to him. It's then a simple case of signing or not signing.

Its very weird instead of signing, he does an interview with Michelle Joy Phelps.

Hearn never gave it to him he

[PotentialToast]

The fight is agreed and both AJ and Wilder"s management are procrastinating to allow AJ to fight Povetkin to finish his Showtime contract so joshua wilder I and II can be on DaZN. I mean, why do you think Povetkin is quiet and not calling AJ out for a massive pay day. Because he knows he is next.

[N/A]

So we should all stop believing what Hearn says and start swallowing Wilder and Finkel's jizz instead ? GTFOH you shill.

You should stop assuming something is true just because Eddie Hearn said it. It might be true, it might not be true. But as a promoter, it's his job to lie, and he lies so often, that it's completely illogical to blindly believe something is true simply because Eddie Hearn said it.

I'm not saying you should automatically believe something simply because Wilder or Finkel said it, but if Wilder was the skilled liar and manipulator Hearn was, he'd be a promoter and not a fighter. Hearn makes way more money than Wilder does and he makes that money because he's an incredible promoter, one of the best of the modern era, and a true heir apparent to King and Arum as a master manipulator.

Finkel is a manager, not a promoter. He's a numbers guy. He's a contract guy. He's skilled at making deals and protecting fighters. If he was the charismatic public speaker Hearn is, maybe he'd be a promoter. Finkel and Hearn have very different jobs. Tricking the public is an essential part of Hearn's job. If it was an essential part of Finkel's job, then I'm sure Finkel would be lying publicly every day too.

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[Ake-Dawg]

Yet you can't even give me an example of these so called lies? Oh right.

The tweet that "the Winkel is satisfied" wasn't exactly true. The it took them 4 weeks to accept my offer statement wasn't exactly accurate given that there was negotiation going on for those 4 weeks.

Hearn doesn't tell bold face lies. He mostly tells half truths that lead people to believe what they want to believe. It's his job to manage public perception so I don't dislike him for it.

For now, we wait to see if he makes the two requested modifications and gets the contract back to Winkel. If Team Wilder is trying to avoid the fight, Hearn can simply point out that their request was unreasonable and he decided to move on.

[yammy25]

You should stop assuming something is true just because Eddie Hearn said it. It might be true, it might not be true. But as a promoter, it's his job to lie, and he lies so often, that it's completely illogical to blindly believe something is true simply because Eddie Hearn said it.

I'm not saying you should automatically believe something simply because Wilder or Finkel said it, but if Wilder was the skilled liar and manipulator Hearn was, he'd be a promoter and not a fighter. Hearn makes way more money than Wilder does and he makes that money because he's an incredible promoter, one of the best of the modern era, and a true heir apparent to King and Arum as a master manipulator.

Finkel is a manager, not a promoter. He's a numbers guy. He's a contract guy. He's skilled at making deals and protecting fighters. If he was the charismatic public speaker Hearn is, maybe he'd be a promoter. Finkel and Hearn have very different jobs. Tricking the public is an essential part of Hearn's job. If it was an essential part of Finkel's job, then I'm sure Finkel would be lying publicly every day too.

So you're suggesting that because Finkel is now a manager and a "numbers guy" he has just completely forgotten how to trick the public .. after all Finkel co-promoted at the time the largest PPV event going in Tyson v spinks .

So what is it.. has Finkel got Alzheimer's and forgotten the traits that you say are essential to promotion, or is he a stand up bloke and just chooses not to employ those traits now he isn't a promoter.. merely the public face looking after his clients best interests?

Pull the other one

[W1LL]

At this point, only an idiot would believe anything Eddie Hearn says about this non-fight.