Comments Thread For: Hearn: At This Stage, I Believe Wilder Does NOT Want Joshua Fight!

[yammy25]

However the people that Wilder has on his payroll like Deas, Finkel, Dibella and Haymon has to get paid too. A $15 million flat-fee is not that much to go around when you think about it as compared to a $50 million guarantee. However a $100 million plus is more than enough to go around and make everyone happy.

Just think about it. What if it was you? Wilder offers you a minimum guarantee of $50 Million are you telling me that you are foolish enough to turn it down?

Hell even Anthony Joshua is willing to cross the pond to Las Vegas and get that guaranteed money. So I don't understand Matchroom boxing and the Hearn's rationale and thinking in this scenario.

Personally for me, I would take a $50 Million guarantee over a $15 Million flat-fee any time of the day.

Wilder would never get anywhere near to 50 million even if the fight were in the US... AJ in either scenario makes more than double 15 million and that amount only related to wilder.

If the fight was held in the US.. it'd have to do 100 mil which it wouldn't and even then it'd have to be more because AJ was given a percentage of revenue on top of the 50 million.

Wilder at most made 20 million dollars if the fight was in Vegas because the whole fight wouldn't make over 100 million..

Funnily enough that's around the same as he's getting in this deal. AJ is taking the cut to have show control and venue / territory choice.

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Finkle confirmed it on World boxing news that his 2 questions have been answered.

If you want Hearn's tweet, find it yourself. I'm not your skivvy.

So you didn't actually see the tweet. Good to know, lol.

[BoZz]

I never said AJ's popularity was on the level of Ali or Tyson. You did, just now. Don't put words in my mouth with your strawman argument, you'll look very silly.

AJ is actually quite big in Dubai. He posted a picture on his twitter of big posters of him everywhere.


To suggest he doesn't have people all over the world who know him is nothing but insecurity on your part. How you can be mad by Joshua being popular is just you being a typical American with your poison and bile because he dare be more well known that the American. **** off, boy.

Well you fkn did say that, you know what 190+countries are you silly goose? Half of the world doesn't have to eat and you want to tell me that 98% of the world watches AJ fights? A guy who's had his best win against an 41 year old? Even in that fight he nearly got knocked the fk out.

Wow he had a photoshoot in Dubai?..clap clap..every second instagram model has pictures from Dubai..don't make it look like it means sh** lol

And lastly I'm not American I'm European, that's the problem as soon as someone speaks the truth it's you're this and that. To me as a boxing fan he's had no noticeable victory. And I am not a fan of wilder either because his best win is against old king kong...BUT when it comes to these two, then clearly I have to admit that joshua does not want to face wilder..I can tell Wilder wants it...you can't fake passion and the will to win. Joshua hasn't said a word..all we get is this idiot Hearn lying on his behalf.

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So you didn't actually see the tweet. Good to know, lol.

Yeah, that is what it proves. Haha.

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Well you fkn did say that, you know what 190+countries are you silly goose? Half of the world doesn't have to eat and you want to tell me that 98% of the world watches AJ fights? A guy who's had his best win against an 41 year old? Even in that fight he nearly got knocked the fk out.

Wow he had a photoshoot in Dubai?..clap clap..every second instagram model has pictures from Dubai..don't make it look like it means sh** lol

And lastly I'm not American I'm European, that's the problem as soon as someone speaks the truth it's you're this and that. To me as a boxing fan he's had no noticeable victory. And I am not a fan of wilder either because his best win is against old king kong...BUT when it comes to these two, then clearly I have to admit that joshua does not want to face wilder..I can tell Wilder wants it...you can't fake passion and the will to win. Joshua hasn't said a word..all we get is this idiot Hearn lying on his behalf.

AJ's Fights are sold to 192 countries. Hearn and sky confirmed it. Don't tell me, that was a lie right? Haha.

Just because a country buys the rights to a fight, it doesn't mean everyone in that country watches.

It wasn't a photoshoot, they were posters of him in malls and on the side of buildings.


Wilder has the contract that he wanted. All we're waiting for is him to sign. AJ and Hearn can't force them to sign.

[BoZz]

AJ's Fights are sold to 192 countries. Hearn and sky confirmed it. Don't tell me, that was a lie right? Haha.

Just because a country buys the rights to a fight, it doesn't mean everyone in that country watches.

It wasn't a photoshoot, they were posters of him in malls and on the side of buildings.


Wilder has the contract that he wanted. All we're waiting for is him to sign. AJ and Hearn can't force them to sign.

I don't believe liars, you can and no one can stop you from doing so. He could tell you there's people on the moon who bought the rights and you'll still believe him because your ignorance has blocked you from thinking critical.

You're from the UK, you never told me but I can tell, I can tell when someone types like his countries pride is hanging on a thread and you're here to save it. Like I said I'm neither from the US nor the UK, I just judge on what I see and hear. i just have to look at hearn to realize he's a sneaky lying fu**

But this is not about hearn this is about joshua and wilder, so far we have not seen any passion from joshua, it's the fighters who want to fight not the promoter, so there is two possibilities, first one is joshua is really scared second one is he wants to fight but has no balls/right to open his mouth because he could get in trouble with his promoter.

Remember the pacquiao/mayweather bull****..I was the first one who said that neither man is scared to fight but that Arum is the problem, when he couldn't milk pacquiao anymore and when pacquiao finally grew some balls the fight got made.

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I don't believe liars, you can and no one can stop you from doing so. He could tell you there's people on the moon who bought the rights and you'll still believe him because your ignorance has blocked you from thinking critical.

You're from the UK, you never told me but I can tell, I can tell when someone types like his countries pride is hanging on a thread and you're here to save it. Like I said I'm neither from the US nor the UK, I just judge on what I see and hear. i just have to look at hearn to realize he's a sneaky lying fu**

But this is not about hearn this is about joshua and wilder, so far we have not seen any passion from joshua, it's the fighters who want to fight not the promoter, so there is two possibilities, first one is joshua is really scared second one is he wants to fight but has no balls/right to open his mouth because he could get in trouble with his promoter.

Remember the pacquiao/mayweather bull****..I was the first one who said that neither man is scared to fight but that Arum is the problem, when he couldn't milk pacquiao anymore and when pacquiao finally grew some balls the fight got made.

There is no reason to lie about countries picking up the fight. If it isn't true, why don't you give me evidence to prove it?

Hearn is a liar? Give me some examples of Hearn lying?

Joshua never speaks that much before fights anyway, so he's not acting out of character. He's letting Hearn do his job. No point in talking all the time like Wilder does.

Joshua is his own man. If he wants to speak, he will. Hearn isn't going to tell him to be quiet.

So nothing more than assumptions from you that have zero merit. Great.

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AJ's Fights are sold to 192 countries. Hearn and sky confirmed it. Don't tell me, that was a lie right? Haha.

Just because a country buys the rights to a fight, it doesn't mean everyone in that country watches.

It wasn't a photoshoot, they were posters of him in malls and on the side of buildings.


Wilder has the contract that he wanted. All we're waiting for is him to sign. AJ and Hearn can't force them to sign.

Pause for a moment. Anthony Joshua's reach is into a believed 192 countries, yet what's Deontay Wilder's reach?

Without much of a sweat, Wilder is seen throughout the Americas (North/South/Central), throughout Sub-Saharan Africa on SuperSport, throughout Oceana on Main Event, on Polsat to get some reach into central Europe, and on Sky Sports or BoxNation to get access into the UK/Ireland, to just scratch the surface. You sit down and actually do a count and it's not all that clear if Joshua's reach is all that much further than Wilder's.

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Pause for a moment. Anthony Joshua's reach is into a believed 192 countries, yet what's Deontay Wilder's reach?

Without much of a sweat, Wilder is seen throughout the Americas (North/South/Central), throughout Sub-Saharan Africa on SuperSport, throughout Oceana on Main Event, on Polsat to get some reach into central Europe, and on Sky Sports or BoxNation to get access into the UK/Ireland, to just scratch the surface. You sit down and actually do a count and it's not all that clear if Joshua's reach is all that much further than Wilder's.

Good joke. Wilder is a nobody in his own country. It isn't going to be much different in other countries.

Care to share how many countries buy his fights? If not, it's just pure speculation without any credibility to it. I could say Dillian Whyte is known by the whole world plus those who are on the moon, but it wouldn't be credible. Just like your assumption.

[DocGreenThumb.]

What are those lies please?

Read Fat Dan's article on ESPN. Shelly Finkel gave the run down on how it's going down with fast Eddie for the fight. Wilder even agreed to A flat fee of 15.5 mil. Keep on protecting fan boy. June 29th is the day when Hearn is supposed to agree to the terms. or their ducking.