Comments Thread For: Hearn: At This Stage, I Believe Wilder Does NOT Want Joshua Fight!

[champion4ever]

We're well beyond the 50 mill deal. This is a new offer to fight in the UK which Wilder accepted but we're waiting for him to sign. You're only going on about the 50 mill deal because you can't face up to the fact that Wilder is ducking so bring up an old deal to try and make yourself feel better.

In actuality, Wilder couldn't give a damn about the $50 Million. Like I said previously he doesn't mind crossing the pond and fighting Anthony Joshua for less money. It's just that his handlers want their fair share of the pie. Remember Wilder has already taken short money against Luis Ortiz. He has done it before, therefore he'll do it again. However, this time around both Jay Deas, Shelly Finkel, Lou Dibella and Al Haymon are all saying Hell no we are not doing it! He didn't listen to them the last time but this time I presume he is. His advisors are telling him that it wouldn't be wise for him to go over seas and take a 70% flat-fee pay cut when he is guaranteed so much more at home.

[Sid-Knee]

If it wasn't for Wilder we wouldn't even know AJ existed, that guy beat 41 year old klitschko since then he struggled with c level fighters. I'm not a fan of either man but you gotta be ******ed to believe joshua wants anything to do with Wilder. UK fans are the only ones who believe this idiots hearn, just like they believe that hatton would beat floyd

AJ's fights are seen in over 192 countries. Plenty of people world-wide know who he is. It's Wilder who no one knows. But you're a deluded American so you'll always say the opposite of reality.

AJ didn't struggle with Takam and Parker, he dominated. They were boring fights, yes. But when your opponent either runs or plays it cute to just last the distance, it's hard to look good.

[Sid-Knee]

In actuality, Wilder couldn't give a damn about the $50 Million. Like I said previously he doesn't mind crossing the pond and fighting Anthony Joshua for less money. It's just that his handlers want their fair share of the pie. Remember Wilder has already taken short money against Luis Ortiz. He has done it before, therefore he'll do it again. However, this time around both Jay Deas, Shelly Finkel, Lou Dibella and Al Haymon are all saying Hell no we are doing it! He didn't listen to them the last time but this time I presume he is.

Wilder is a 2 bit nobody who earns about 1.5 mill a fight. He can't even sell tickets. So him getting over 15 mill is way more of the pie than he deserves. To claim otherwise is nothing short of delusional. Wilder should be thankful AJ exists. Without him Wilder would never get a big payday nor would anyone care for him.

[kafkod]

That article was posted today and I hadn't read it until now. So if Finkel is now saying they're willing to sign once they know the date and venue, I'm sure he'll keep his word if there aren't any last second tricks. Every step of the way, Wilder's side have shown they really want this fight. As they should.

And every step of the way, AJ's side has shown they don't really want the fight, but they'll reluctantly take it if the deal is overwhelmingly in AJ's favor. As they should. He's the A-side and he's not going to take the biggest risk possible unless the deal is so good it's impossible to say no to.

Everybody is doing what is in their best interest. As they should. The only issue here is that AJ's fans believe everything Hearn says, even though Hearn is a compulsive liar (as he should be, his profession is being a boxing promoter).

So we should all stop believing what Hearn says and start swallowing Wilder and Finkel's jizz instead ? GTFOH you shill.

[BoZz]

AJ's fights are seen in over 192 countries. Plenty of people world-wide know who he is. It's Wilder who no one knows. But you're a deluded American so you'll always say the opposite of reality.

AJ didn't struggle with Takam and Parker, he dominated. They were boring fights, yes. But when your opponent either runs or plays it cute to just last the distance, it's hard to look good.

Did Hearn tell you that? That's fkn bullsh** no one except boxing fans know who he is, why the hell would someone in the middle east or Africa watch AJ or even Wilder? Those dudes are straight garbage and like I said neither man has beaten anyone noticeable so far. They are not Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali, those times are over dude, there are probably people in difference continents who follow boxing and probably know who they are but you making him look like he was Muhammad Ali. Your comment shows me you have lost the feeling for reality boy. Time to log off, come back tomorrow when you get some sleep.

[OldTerry]

You do know that Wilder has agreed to the offer and now has a contract but won't sign? How the **** is that Hearn's fault? They can't force the coward to sign.

I know that Deontay is not afraid of Joshua so if he is not signing the contract it is not out of fear. My logic tells me that it is the contract and that it is lowballing and insulting to Wilder. If it is not Fear or contract then what else could it be? I'm open to reasonable ideas because something is definably broken.

[champion4ever]

Wilder is a 2 bit nobody who earns about 1.5 mill a fight. He can't even sell tickets. So him getting over 15 mill is way more of the pie than he deserves. To claim otherwise is nothing short of delusional. Wilder should be thankful AJ exists. Without him Wilder would never get a big payday nor would anyone care for him.

However the people that Wilder has on his payroll like Deas, Finkel, Dibella and Haymon has to get paid too. A $15 million flat-fee is not that much to go around when you think about it as compared to a $50 million guarantee. However a $100 million plus is more than enough to go around and make everyone happy.

Just think about it. What if it was you? Wilder offers you a minimum guarantee of $50 Million are you telling me that you are foolish enough to turn it down?

Hell even Anthony Joshua is willing to cross the pond to Las Vegas and get that guaranteed money. So I don't understand Matchroom boxing and the Hearn's rationale and thinking in this scenario.

Personally for me, I would take a $50 Million guarantee over a $15 Million flat-fee any time of the day.

[Sid-Knee]

Did Hearn tell you that? That's fkn bullsh** no one except boxing fans know who he is, why the hell would someone in the middle east or Africa watch AJ or even Wilder? Those dudes are straight garbage and like I said neither man has beaten anyone noticeable so far. They are not Mike Tyson or Muhammad Ali, those times are over dude, there are probably people in difference continents who follow boxing and probably know who they are but you making him look like he was Muhammad Ali shows me you have lost the feeling for reality boy. Time to log off, come back tomorrow when you get some sleep.

I never said AJ's popularity was on the level of Ali or Tyson. You did, just now. Don't put words in my mouth with your strawman argument, you'll look very silly.

AJ is actually quite big in Dubai. He posted a picture on his twitter of big posters of him everywhere.


To suggest he doesn't have people all over the world who know him is nothing but insecurity on your part. How you can be mad by Joshua being popular is just you being a typical American with your poison and bile because he dare be more well known that the American. **** off, boy.

[Sid-Knee]

However the people that Wilder has on his payroll like Deas, Finkel, Dibella and Haymon has to get paid too. A $15 million flat-fee is not that much to go around when you think about it as compared to a $50 million guarantee. However a $100 million plus is more than enough to go around and make everyone happy.

Just think about it. What if it was you? Wilder offers you a minimum guarantee of $50 Million are you telling me that you are foolish enough to turn it down?

Hell even Anthony Joshua is willing to cross the pond to Las Vegas and get that guaranteed money. So I don't understand Matchroom boxing and the Hearn's rationale and thinking in this scenario.

Personally for me, I would take a $50 Million guarantee over a $15 Million flat-fee any time of the day.

It's nobodies fault that Wilder has all these people on his team other than his own.

[Sid-Knee]

I know that Deontay is not afraid of Joshua so if he is not signing the contract it is not out of fear. My logic tells me that it is the contract and that it is lowballing and insulting to Wilder. If it is not Fear or contract then what else could it be? I'm open to reasonable ideas because something is definably broken.

They have already agreed to how much Wilder is getting. He's happy, he accepted the offer. Hearn hasn't put less in the contract that they negotiated. If you claim he has, where is your evidence?