Comments Thread For: WBC Prez: Wilder-Joshua Deal Will Be Tough To Make

[FLY TY]

He said several times that he would have no problem with fighting AJ in the UK. According to Hearn everything has been agreed now except the location. AJ wants it in the UK and Wilder wants it in the US

That's the problem. You guys take whatever Hearn says, and just parrot it.


Wilder's team made a 50 million dollar guarantee, which will only be generated in the states...by AJ saying he doesn't want to fight here, that kills that guarantee.

Since AJ wants the fight in the UK, and is willing to take a "paycut," Wilder has stated he wants 40%, or whatever he's offered, AJ has to take for the rematch. Those are Wilder's conditions to fight in the UK. Where has Wilder said he won't fight in the UK?

The problem is, AJ wants the 50 million, and ALSO wants the fight in the UK....that's not happening.

[EnglishOxide]

Those are the facts. If anybody can look at team Wilder's position, and pretend Wilder is the reason this fight is not getting made, then they are a cheerleader. The reason I responded to your post, is because you are usually sensible...but if you want to refrain from acknowledging the facts (as Wilder has done numerous interviews stating what I posted) then I won't quote you again.

Wilder has had an improved offer to fight in the UK on the table for at least a week according to Hearn today.

Forget about a US fight or 50m guarantee. A side has decided it's UK and Wilder must accept that.

At this moment in time, Wilder is the one holding things up whilst he decides what to do. He has been offered the fight in September. But if he don't want it then he can have it at the end of the year so he can fight Brezeale and AJ fight Povetkin.

[peplz]

The rematch won't happen. AJ knocked out brutally twice would be the end of the gravy train.. an secondly the second fight won't make half as much.. this is why the 1st fight should be a simple split 60/40 in favor of joshua in the u.k. this is what the understanding is between both camps in order to make the fight in the UK.. I imagine hearn is still trying to get Wilder to take 12.5 million flat fee! For the biggest fight in heavyweight history!!! So that Wilder wont accept. . Then AJ can go have a trilogy with Povetkin. Lol.

You're quite delusional if you think this is the biggest fight in heavy weight history.

[Laligalaliga]

A flat rate thats negotiable . You dont go backwards in negotiating .


Obviously Wilder will get close to 15 Million wheather its a flat rate or percentage .


Unless the fight is bigger then projected .


Wilder demanding 40% is still nonsense and any boxing fan with some intellect knows this .


If Wilder thinks he will win he takes the fight regardless bc Breazeale brings ZERO to his image .

And why is everyone IGNORING the fight wont happen next if it was in the U.S ???????


The Wilder cry babies WANT the fight next and its only possible in the U.K .


What a bunch of ******s !

let's wait and see how things unfold.

[5000boxing]

You're quite delusional if you think this is the biggest fight in heavy weight history.

If it ever happens it beats lennox/tyson.. it would do closer to Mayweather/Pacquiao numbers..

[kafkod]

That's the problem. You guys take whatever Hearn says, and just parrot it.


Wilder's team made a 50 million dollar guarantee, which will only be generated in the states...by AJ saying he doesn't want to fight here, that kills that guarantee.

Since AJ wants the fight in the UK, and is willing to take a "paycut," Wilder has stated he wants 40%, or whatever he's offered, AJ has to take for the rematch. Those are Wilder's conditions to fight in the UK. Where has Wilder said he won't fight in the UK?

The problem is, AJ wants the 50 million, and ALSO wants the fight in the UK....that's not happening.

That PR stunt offer from Winkle is history. It had a 48 hour take it or leave it deadline, remember? There have been other discussions going on between Hearn and Haymon for weeks now. And as Hearn is the only one updating us on how things are going, his updates are what I'm commenting on.

[_Rexy_]

Why is Mauricio saying this will be difficult? You'd think he would be rock hard at the prospect of AJ/Wilder and GGG/Canelo sanctioning fees.

[Corelone]

Okay the 50 million dollars does exist. But its not an offer, its a speculative power play for leverage on all of the other terms of the fight. Deontay Wilder is not offering Anthony Joshua 50 million to get in the ring. He is throwing 50 million one dollar bills in his face and telling Anthony Joshua to pick it up off of the ground on his hands and knees. Which would negate Joshua's A-side status. The offer is basically an advance on his portion of the speculative amount of money that the event would earn. So if the event earns what Wilder and Finkel say it will Joshua will still make all of the money that he would make from a 50 million dollar advance.

Do I hear a Freudian slip. AJ on his hands and knees? That's exactly what Wilder wants to see. Until AJ comes up with a matching offer, he's the b side.

[kafkod]

Wilder has had an improved offer to fight in the UK on the table for at least a week according to Hearn today.

Forget about a US fight or 50m guarantee. A side has decided it's UK and Wilder must accept that.

At this moment in time, Wilder is the one holding things up whilst he decides what to do. He has been offered the fight in September. But if he don't want it then he can have it at the end of the year so he can fight Brezeale and AJ fight Povetkin.

Hearn is a lier doe. Don't believe what he says, just make up your own version of what's going on and run with that ...

[Ray*]

Huh? He was awaiting Finkel's response for weeks, because Finkel said they would respond "appropriately" after they got that lowball offer...that's when they offered AJ $50 million, if that rings a bell.

So your position, contrary to EVERYTHING else that's out there, is that the 12.5 flat fee was a lie?



If you're not here to cheerlead, and discuss boxing like an adult, it may be wise to brush up on the facts. Otherwise, you sound just like a "cheerleader."

1) Wilder will accept 40% to Joshua's 60% to fight in the UK.

2) If they (Matchroom) does not want to give him a percentage split, and just offer a flat fee, then Wilder has said he'd accept that, but they have to accept the same in a rematch.

3) Wilder's team has also offered AJ a guarantee MINIMUM of 50 million (which AJ himself stated he wanted) for a fight in the States.

Are you here to defend Wilder or what? Am putting out what Wilder himself said. You coming back with more of what he said. No one is pretending Wilder is the reason the fight isn’t happening, he is one of the reason why the fight isn’t happening. So trying to blame one side is CHEERLEADING.

Again show me where Wilder said I would accept 40% full stop. Not I would take 40% and then 60% if I win.

All that stuff about AJ turn down 50m is irrelevant to me, because I have criticise AJ in uncountless post, show me one post where you have criticise Wilder for “No more dodging, no more ducking, I don’t care about the financials, I would go to the U.K.” and then he got offered 12.5m and then he refuse to answer back.

Show me where you put your foot down and say, why doesn’t he take 5 times his usual purse and KO that British bum. All you guys jumped on his “Flat fees” like you are getting paid from a %.

Am usually a good poster when am backing an American boxer. Once am criticising them then American posters like yourself seems to have an issue with me, again am blaming both Wilder and Joshua 50-50 for this... am holding them to their words.