The Lomachenko hype is going way too far

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  • Nay_Sayer
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    #61
    Originally posted by chrisJS
    A lot of the hatred comes from racism and xenophobia.
    The LOSS to Orlando Salido has *nothing* to do with racism or xenophobia.

    Please remove your head from your ass...

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    • chrisJS
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      #62
      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
      The LOSS to Orlando Salido has *nothing* to do with racism or xenophobia.

      Please remove your head from your ass...
      Better fighters than Loma have lost to lesser fighters than Salido at more advanced stages of their careers.

      You are choosing to usual the casuals approach to suit your particular agenda which I believe is likely based on racism or xenophobia and insecurity.

      Grow up and enjoy the sport. It's never good to watch fights filled with rage and hate towards another man because of a lust of another man you've likely never paid to see live and doesn't know who you are.

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      • Nay_Sayer
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        #63
        Originally posted by chrisJS
        Better fighters than Loma have lost to lesser fighters than Salido at more advanced stages of their careers.
        More excuses.

        Salido beat a guy who was the veteran of over 400 amateur fights and in his physical prime.

        Please remove your head from your ass...

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        • chrisJS
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          #64
          Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
          More excuses.

          Salido beat a guy who was the veteran of over 400 amateur fights and in his physical prime.

          Please remove your head from your ass...
          Am fights are different. Headgear, different number of rounds, different size of gloves, different scoring system etc; in case you weren't aware.

          It's why fighters even who have 300 or 400 or more fights don't just go into title fights. They generally always have to adapt and take some time to get their feet wet before contesting title bouts.

          I'm fairly you are one of the types that would say amateur boxing don't mean **** when it fits your agenda but now it's identical to the pro game?

          You are blind thinking Loma was as good in his first 1-2 fights is the same as the fighter he is today. Blind or biased. You may not understand this concept and be able to grasp it but boxers historically have improved often as they fight more in the pro ranks. Just not many fighters have the guts to go for title fights right away and casuals punish that mentality because the 0 is all that's important to them.

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          • Diego Rodriguez
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            #65
            Originally posted by buddyr
            hold up, floyd is better than Duran, Whitaker, and SRR at lw? for real?
            I think a prime Sugar Shane Mosley at 135lbs is one hell of a fight for Mayweather. And it would probably have been super entertaining because Floyd was definitely a more interesting fighter early in his career.

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            • chrisJS
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              #66
              Originally posted by Diego Rodriguez
              I think a prime Sugar Shane Mosley at 135lbs is one hell of a fight for Mayweather. And it would probably have been super entertaining because Floyd was definitely a more interesting fighter early in his career.
              Fraud would never fight him. Mosley would have been an elite level fighter in his prime. Floyd doesn't do that.

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                #67
                Originally posted by chrisJS
                Fraud would never fight him. Mosley would have been an elite level fighter in his prime. Floyd doesn't do that.
                There are videos of Floyd calling out Mosley as early as 2003 after fights. Mosley wanted no parts of Floyd back then. Larry Merchant in 2006 asked Mosley if he would be willing to fight Floyd and Mosley said he needed a vacation and that his "tooth was loose." It wasn't until Floyd was a major himself did any of these guys ant to fight him.

                Obviously you're not much of a boxing fan if you didn't already know this.

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                • chrisJS
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                  There are videos of Floyd calling out Mosley as early as 2003 after fights. Mosley wanted no parts of Floyd back then. Larry Merchant in 2006 asked Mosley if he would be willing to fight Floyd and Mosley said he needed a vacation and that his "tooth was loose." It wasn't until Floyd was a major himself did any of these guys ant to fight him.

                  Obviously you're not much of a boxing fan if you didn't already know this.
                  Mosley had already declined by 2003 but typical Floyd trying to cherry pick him in 2003 after two losses to Forrest. Even in 2006 he'd beaten a severely washed up Vargas and got a re-match gift over Oscar.

                  Mosley's lightweight prime was 97-99 and his best welterweight days were 00-02.

                  Are you one of those Floyd fanboys that must defend everything he does and doesn't do whilst also not paying to actually go and see him live?

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                  • The Big Dunn
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                    #69
                    I think Loma is a very good boxer. He and Floyd have similar skills, IQ and Loma is just slightly slower than him. The difference IMO is Floyd's reach/arm length, which is significantly long for someone his height.

                    Loma, as good as he is, can't make his arms stretch out longer than God gave him. So while he deserves all the hype he gets, those comparing him to Floyd need to understand the difference that 5 inch reach makes.

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                    • hugh grant
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
                      Like what? Lose to Orlando Salido?
                      No, he's won 3 di visions in 12 fights. He's done things nobodies done. Just like Pac winning 8 division titles. They've done things nobody did so have a case for being best.
                      It might be a weak case depending on who you speak to but a case they have.
                      Moral of the story is the best do things others havent
                      Last edited by hugh grant; 05-23-2018, 01:33 PM.

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