The Lomachenko hype is going way too far

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  • Nay_Sayer
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    #91
    Originally posted by jmrf4435
    Crawdord got rocked and dazed several times against a legal midget in gamboa...

    LOL
    Crawford beat Gamboa and doesn't lose to the likes of Orlando Salido...
    Last edited by Nay_Sayer; 05-24-2018, 09:40 AM.

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      #92
      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
      There are videos of Floyd calling out Mosley as early as 2003 after fights. Mosley wanted no parts of Floyd back then. Larry Merchant in 2006 asked Mosley if he would be willing to fight Floyd and Mosley said he needed a vacation and that his "tooth was loose." It wasn't until Floyd was a major himself did any of these guys ant to fight him.

      Obviously you're not much of a boxing fan if you didn't already know this.
      I've already addressed the Mayweather/Mosley situation that many of you are too young to remember. Everything I posted below previously is 100% truth and I don't have an agenda like Chrisjs. He's still mad floyd beat the hell out of Marquez. I like Marquez and I don't like Mayweather but I knew he was gonna beat Marquez. read below and feel free to refute anything I'm saying..

      Originally posted by buddyr
      Actually that was true. If you were following Shane early in his career( and you're a die hard mayweather fan so I assume you started watching boxing after he fought De la Hoya), Shane Mosley used to have this big gap between his teeth. After he made a little money, he got some bonding work done(which is obviously ****** when you're in a profession that means you will get punched in the face for a living). So that was not an excuse. He actually had tooth issues because veneers and bonding is strong, but not as strong as your real teeth..

      Pertaining to the subject, Hilary Duff, who had work done, said on her wedding day, she bit into a bagel and lost one of her front teeth and had to get emergency surgery before the wedding. A BAGEL!!! And you're telling me a guy that jumped up 2 weight classes and fought Forrest twice, Wright Twice, Margarito(a guy Mayweather didn't want to fight for some reason) was afraid of Floyd and that his dental bonding could withstand getting hit in the mouth in training and fights? This is not fake news. Mosley had just beat Phillip Holiday(his first fight on HBO) and none of the other 135 pounders would fight him. He was still fighting on USA's TNF as a world champion. Nothing is wrong with that because Bernard Hopkins did the same thing in the 90s too. So He asked Mayweather 2 years later, after he had beat Hernandez for the 130 lb title, destroyed Manfredy , and had a few other defenses, to meet him at 135 for a fight. Maywether couldn't get fights. Garcia wasn't jumping thru hoops to fight Mayweather. He lost to Corrales and Corrales was decimated by Floyd stayed at 130 for a while. I don't blame him for not fighting a lw Mosely in 99 or 2000 cuz he would have seriously got ****ed up.

      This isn't fake news or anything I'm making up. Everything can be confirmed. I kept all of my old vhs tapes, and boxing mags from my youth up to now(I was in my 20s back when Floyd was at 130 and Mosley was at 135 so I know what the hell I'm talkign about. I've followed BOTH their whole careers since Mayweather was fighting every 2 weeks on TNF and Mosley was on those Cedrick Kushner cards early in his career. I don't need to go on youtube. i was documenting that era with VCRs as it was happening. You're welcome

      If you tell a lie long enough, people will start to believe it. (just like christianity). Mayweather wanted no parts of Mosley when he was at 130 and Mosley was at 135. No one did. Not him, Stevie Johnston or any of the other lightweights or even junior welterweights. Zab was popping off at the mouth calling him "Salt Shane Mosley" , something like that(pre-Tszyu fight after Mosley had beat De la Hoya) but I think we all knew how that would have ended. If anything I said in that post was a lie, please point it out to me

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      • buddyr
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        #93
        Originally posted by jmrf4435
        Crawdord got rocked and dazed several times against a legal midget in gamboa...

        LOL
        Gamboa hit hard at lw and was unbeated at the time he fought Crawford as well as a top fighter. You act like that was a bad thing. Darnell Boone has knocked down Kovalev, Ward, and Stevenson(even knocking Stevenson out) and he's a journeyman. But he can punch.

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        • Johnwoo8686
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          #94
          Originally posted by chrisJS
          Yeah dude's just a typical Fraud fanboy. Hype every Floyd win to far more than it's worth. Gatti better than Monzon, Hagler, Charles is LOL to me. Broner better than Arguello and Jofre is comedy too.

          I'm a Marquez fan but I know Marquez being a 4 division champ doesn't make him better than any of those fighters (apart from the legendary Broner and Gatti obviously).
          So I guess Lomachenko isn't shit either. Considering how it easy it is to become a champion nowadays as you say. Everyone keeps hyping the fact that he's won titles in 3 weight classes. Using the standards of you morons, Lomachenko's accomplishments don't mean much considering "it's so easy to win belts" today.

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          • Slicc
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            #95
            Originally posted by Nay_Sayer
            Orlando Salidoe...
            Had to fix it for you.

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            • Rayzah
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              #96
              Originally posted by Lewisstewart1
              Lets be quite frank hear, lomachenko is not bringing anyone who was not already interested in the sport to boxing. The only person from personal exprience(I am in the uk mind) who has that drawing power is AJ, as even most girls from the here recognise him due to his physique etc.

              well im in the fitness world and after the Linares fight everbody and their mama were asking me who the Loma,matrix, the flashy kid was....the kid has a buzz and to see fans who know nothing about boxing asking about him constantly and pulling up his video are enough proof for me.....kinda when pacquiao came on the scene and brought a ton of casuals to the sport. he's hot at the rating prove that also

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              • hugh grant
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                #97
                Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                So I guess Lomachenko isn't shit either. Considering how it easy it is to become a champion nowadays as you say. Everyone keeps hyping the fact that he's won titles in 3 weight classes. Using the standards of you morons, Lomachenko's accomplishments don't mean much considering "it's so easy to win belts" today.
                Don't be silly. If you had a long career like floyd over the years a simple fight will come along and you can slip in there and take advantage of situation especially like floyd who didn't fight and surveyed the scene from couch.
                But in 12 fights you won't get those cherrypick chances. Lomachenko has a claim to be better than floyd already he's done something floyd didnt
                Last edited by hugh grant; 05-24-2018, 06:59 AM.

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                  #98
                  Originally posted by hugh grant
                  Don't be silly. If you had a long career like floyd over the years a simple fight will come along and you can slip in there and take advantage of situation especially like floyd who didn't fight and surveyed the scene from couch.
                  But in 12 fights you won't get those cherrypick chances. Lomachenko has a claim to be better than floyd already he's done something floyd didnt
                  Aren't you the same guy who posted that Floyd needed to beat a list of guys to be an ATG and then moved the goalpost and flipped once he beat all those opponents? Yeah, that was you.

                  Then you deleted the post like a cowardly f@g and pretended you never posted anything. Fortunately a few posters put it in their sig and you were proven to be a flip flopping liar.

                  You have absolutely no credibility. Your opinion is worthless.

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                  • hugh grant
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                    #99
                    Floyd can claim to be better than lomo if he's beaten better fighters even if those fighters were past best.
                    I think floyd has beaten better fighters so floyd is greater right now. Or has a case for being better at very least
                    Last edited by hugh grant; 05-24-2018, 07:06 AM.

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                    • chrisJS
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                      #100
                      Originally posted by Johnwoo8686
                      So I guess Lomachenko isn't shit either. Considering how it easy it is to become a champion nowadays as you say. Everyone keeps hyping the fact that he's won titles in 3 weight classes. Using the standards of you morons, Lomachenko's accomplishments don't mean much considering "it's so easy to win belts" today.
                      I didn’t say it’s the standard on not standard. Loma has gotten to #1 in 3 divisions that still doesn’t mean he’s better than SRR, Monzon, Jofre, Greb or Hagler like you think he is.

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