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Originally posted by BigStomps View PostWell your entitled to your opinion. But let's not forget that Crawford gave Gamboa, Postol, and Indongo their first loss. He also schooled Diaz who only had one disputable loss against Lamont Peterson and was an Olympic gold medalist.
So that's why I have him ahead of Triple g.
Triple g fought nothing but B and C level fighters his whole career aside from Canelo and Jacobs and he struggled against both even if you had him winning both fights. At this point I don't even have him #3 to be honest.
You can make a case for Mikey and Sorungvisa being ahead of Triple g on the P4P list...
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Originally posted by aboutfkntime View Postbecause he is a much better, more well-rounded fighter
if he was naturally the same size as Golovkin, or if Golovkin was naturally the same size as Crawford..... who would win?
Golovkin looks terrific against " available " scrubs..... but he went life-and-death with Jacobs and he could not beat the smaller Canelo..... some say he lost a decision in that fight..... I see the super-talented Crawford schooling him
and other than Jacobs/Canelo (who both gave him a *) Golovkin's resume has no real substance
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Originally posted by Noelanthony View PostLol..possibly ... but you had him at no 1 directly after his Salido fight so your vote doesn’t count...... LOMASEXUAL.... that username shows me you are as impartial as they come
I wasn't even on this site until three years after the Salido fight, so I sure as hell wasn't calling him #1 at that time.
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Originally posted by Scipio2009 View PostAfter the fall of Roy Jones Jr, Floyd Mayweather Jr was the unquestioned top p4p fighter in the sport, until his retirement against Andre Berto, full stop.
After Floyd stepped aside, Andre Ward was the top p4p fighter, without question, until he walked away.
With Ward now gone, the status is vacant and will remain vacant until some fighter comes along and leaves no doubt.
Alvarez, Crawford, Lomachenko, and Golovkin all have some claim, and Mikey Garcia, Errol Spence Jr, Usyk (if he beats Gassiev to seal the division) and a few others are on their way to being in that conversation sooner than not.
Lomachenko fought his biggest opponent (and arguably second best opponent on skills) and not only didn't look stellar, he got dropped and basically confirmed the game plan to stifle him (Lomachenko's near entire game seems to be built on getting inside your range, before then baiting you to open yourself up so that he can land).
Maybe he can make the adjustment, but it's clear why all of the talk of running through weight divisions has cooled the way it has
Errol Spence now is probably my favourite fighter but he should not be anywhere below 6th on the P4P list. He has only fought 1 elite fighter and was he elite at that. It’s not his fault as these fighters are scared to fight him
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Originally posted by Noelanthony View PostLol..possibly ... but you had him at no 1 directly after his Salido fight so your vote doesn’t count...... LOMASEXUAL.... that username shows me you are as impartial as they come
And then in Top 3 after his next 2 fights.
So who was right all this time? Dimmed -ers who neglected Loma's skills and look soar now or experts who told since the very beginning how special Loma is?
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Originally posted by Ajvar View PostYes, bright people had Loma at Top 10 P4P list soon after Salido ASAP after GRJ's loss to Loma.
And then in Top 3 after his next 2 fights.
So who was right all this time? Dimmed -ers who neglected Loma's skills and look soar now or experts who told since the very beginning how special Loma is?
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Originally posted by Noelanthony View PostVery solid points bro until you got to Mikey. Any fighter that has Broner as probably his best win should not be discussed in any P4P negotiations. ........ ( yes I’m still bitter putting money down on Broner to beat Mikey)
But let's not forget Mikey's win last January against Dejan and his last win a couple of months ago. Both those guys were champions and they were undefeated.
Alot of people will say they are Euro bums but just because they are not well known here in America doesn't mean they are bums.
Again it's debatable on the top ten P4P aside from Loma and Crawford.
I think Alot of people will agree that Loma and Crawford are one and two in that category.
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Originally posted by BigStomps View PostFair enough. I see what your saying.
But let's not forget Mikey's win last January against Dejan and his last win a couple of months ago. Both those guys were champions and they were undefeated.
Alot of people will say they are Euro bums but just because they are not well known here in America doesn't mean they are bums.
Again it's debatable on the top ten P4P aside from Loma and Crawford.
I think Alot of people will agree that Loma and Crawford are one and two in that category.
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