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  • DeadLikeMe
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    #31
    19 year old floyd absolutely demolishes 18 year old salido if they fought back then. 26 year old Floyd against the Salido that beat Lomachenko? Even worse massacre.

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    • Irony123
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      #32
      Originally posted by The Big Dunn
      Actually, yours is as bad as any of those because just like them you are only posting this out of anger.

      Loma lost to Salido. It doesn't mean he isn't one of, if not the best, in the world right now. It also is fair for people to factor in the loss in how they evaluate him.

      Yes I can compare. Loma made the choice to remain an amateur in part because his federation compensates amateur boxers. So he could work and train and get some money.

      If I am correct, The US and Mexico, for example, don't financially support their amateur boxers, so amateurs have to make the choice to turn pro much earlier.

      Loma also got a salary and insurance in the AIBA WSBB series, thus allowing him to get pro experience but it not count on his official record.

      Respectfully, you not pointing all this out wreaks of having an agenda, but maybe you just didn't know.

      Floyd fought Corrales, Castillo and Hernandez, all top in their division, while under 25. Again, if I used this as the standard Loma couldn't meet it.

      Loma is a great boxer without question. However he is 12-1 at 30 years old. Let's just enjoy him and talk about him being great and not ruin it with ridiculous comparisons.
      Why would I mention pay, it might be a factor why fighters stay as amateurs in some parts of the world longer than others but it doesn't change the fact that no two fight pro would have an easy time with Salido (even the greatest). Age is a factor for sure, amateur experience too and definitely pro fight experience. I don't care if you are 19, 25 or 30... you will not win a wide decision or KO Salido in your 2nd pro fight.

      If you want a closer comparison then the 1st Castillo fight was close enough to go either way and Floyd got the nod. Castillo of the 1st Mayweather fight is comparable to Salido of the Lomachenko fight in terms of experience, toughness, and quality of wins.

      I enjoy lomachenko and i keep enjoying his fights, you should maybe preach to some of the other folks who tend to hate on the guy every 2nd post.

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      • hhs661
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        #33
        In Floyds second fight Salido was 2-4. I know for a fact floyd would have easily defeated Salido if he was his 2nd fight

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        • Irony123
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          #34
          Originally posted by DeadLikeMe
          19 year old floyd absolutely demolishes 18 year old salido if they fought back then. 26 year old Floyd against the Salido that beat Lomachenko? Even worse massacre.
          Clearly you didn't read my opening post... so i'll copy and paste the part that you missed.

          "So picture this, Floyd coming in at 130 limit in his 2nd fight against Salido. Salido doesn't make weight and comes in bigger as a 50 pro fight veteran, uses dirty tactics throughout the fight. Would Floyd, KO Salido, win the fight convincingly by points, win a close fight, lose a close fight, lose a wide decision, or get KOed."

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          • xhiddenx87
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            #35
            Loma is the best since sliced bread

            Now let that sink

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            • The Big Dunn
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              #36
              Originally posted by Irony123
              Why would I mention pay, it might be a factor why fighters stay as amateurs in some parts of the world longer than others but it doesn't change the fact that no two fight pro would have an easy time with Salido (even the greatest). Age is a factor for sure, amateur experience too and definitely pro fight experience. I don't care if you are 19, 25 or 30... you will not win a wide decision or KO Salido in your 2nd pro fight.

              If you want a closer comparison then the 1st Castillo fight was close enough to go either way and Floyd got the nod. Castillo of the 1st Mayweather fight is comparable to Salido of the Lomachenko fight in terms of experience, toughness, and quality of wins.

              I enjoy lomachenko and i keep enjoying his fights, you should maybe preach to some of the other folks who tend to hate on the guy every 2nd post.
              I mentioned it to explain why Loma could turn pro at such a late age while fighters from the US and Mexico, among other places, can't do the same.

              I don't think so. just because Loma didn't win doesn't mean if you took a Floyd and gave him 400 amateur fights and 6 quasi pro fights he wouldn't. It really is a moot point. It doesn't matter what others would do, it only matters what happened.

              Ok, much more reasonable comparison. Floyd's closest fight IMO.

              I have in the RBR thread and others. I just don't get why Loma fans get so mad and insecure when people mention the Salido loss. It happened. He is better for it. He's one of the best in the world right now, if not the best. he'd be favored over Salido in the rematch. Why isn't that good enough?

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              • Irony123
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                #37
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                I mentioned it to explain why Loma could turn pro at such a late age while fighters from the US and Mexico, among other places, can't do the same.

                I don't think so. just because Loma didn't win doesn't mean if you took a Floyd and gave him 400 amateur fights and 6 quasi pro fights he wouldn't. It really is a moot point. It doesn't matter what others would do, it only matters what happened.

                Ok, much more reasonable comparison. Floyd's closest fight IMO.

                I have in the RBR thread and others. I just don't get why Loma fans get so mad and insecure when people mention the Salido loss. It happened. He is better for it. He's one of the best in the world right now, if not the best. he'd be favored over Salido in the rematch. Why isn't that good enough?
                I am not mad or insecure about that loss. like I said before it was a great experience. I do get ticked when others discount the good work he did thus far because of that loss. he lost... i get it and accept it.. he will lose again as all boxers who keep challenging themselves do.

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                • Luilun
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                  #38
                  Mayweather had a hard time Carlos Famous Hernandez didn’t he fake a low blow aganist or was it Jesus Chavez ?
                  Last edited by Luilun; 05-15-2018, 02:55 PM.

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                  • Nay_Sayer
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Irony123
                    Look i am not discrediting Floyd, i just find it crazy how some posters think Floyd would beat Salido in his 2nd pro fight... by KO never the less.

                    a 19 year old Loma would lose even worse to Salido but no different than a 19 year old Floyd.

                    A 26 year old Loma who would have started his pro career after his 1st gold and had 20+ pro fights would also destroy Salido just like Floyd would at 26 at 20+ fights.
                    Lomafako was already a veteran of over 400 amateur fights by the time he fought Salido.

                    Had 2 pro fight Mayweather been the veteran of 400 amateur fights - he would have absolutely DESTROYED a journeyman like Salido.

                    You all really ought to stop with these silly comparisons. Had Lomafako the same level of amateur experience as Mayweather did, the Salido fight would have been a gross mismatch of epic proportions.

                    Experience matters - amateur and professional..
                    Last edited by Nay_Sayer; 05-15-2018, 03:02 PM.

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                    • j.razor
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Irony123
                      of course, it matters, but what was Loma's experience in the pros before fighting Salido? The same people who talk about Loma's experience and age love to **** on his amateur pedigree.

                      Either way even if Floyd was 26 years old I don't see him winning against Salido in his 2nd pro fight. On top of that Floyd boxed from a much younger age than Lomachenko
                      Do you know who "Pretty Boy" was? Cuz from your comment I guess not. Both Floyds said he could of fought for a world title in his 1st fight. He was fighting men as a young teenager. Point is he is light years ahead of your boy wonder. This aint the cartoons you be watching....LMMFAO

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