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  • BigZ44
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    #21
    Originally posted by Irony123
    I agree but that was my point exactly, to be fair when i posted this thread i knew i would get this kind of response i just wanted to see who would vote with their brain and who will vote with their fanboyism. I have no illusions that a 19 year old Lomachenko would do worse than the 26 year old version, just like i think that a 26 year old lomachenko would beat salido from pillar to post if he was a 20+ fight pro vetern who decided to turn pro after his 1st gold.
    Alright, so we're on the same page. Just too bad this site has so many people that live in their own realities and only allow themselves to see things through one lens of their choosing

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    • The Big Dunn
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      #22
      Originally posted by Irony123
      Look i am not discrediting Floyd, i just find it crazy how some posters think Floyd would beat Salido in his 2nd pro fight... by KO never the less.

      a 19 year old Loma would lose even worse to Salido but no different than a 19 year old Floyd.

      A 26 year old Loma who would have started his pro career after his 1st gold and had 20+ pro fights would also destroy Salido just like Floyd would at 26 at 20+ fights.
      Floyd is a more defensive fighter and has a 5 in reach advantage over Salido that would allow him to fight more on the outside, where Loma has a reach 2 inches shorter than Salido. SO maybe it is different.

      Yes, it is likely Loma destroys him although IMO Loma's style is tough against larger men. he needs to make some tweaks to it. That said, I picked him over Salido in the rematch and would expect a lopsided UD or making him quit on his stool.

      The bottom line is the comparison you are making is invalid because of age.

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      • filup79
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        #23
        The ironic thing is the Floyd is older than Salido by one year, Floyd would have probably KOd Salido in his second fight if did indeed fight in '96 when they first started out. Salido had lost 3 of his first 9 fights. Salido was 35 when he fought a 25 year old Loma. Floyd would have been 18 to Salido's 35.

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        • uppercut510
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          #24
          loma just lost the fight man get over it, hes still a very good fighter with more time to do great things

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          • boliodogs
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            #25
            Originally posted by mcdonalds
            Mayweather was 18 years old in his 2nd pro fight. Lomachenko was 26

            Mayweather at 26 would completely dominate and stop salido

            yep, yep USA is the best we all know that
            Mayweather was not 18 for his second pro fight. He was a few months away from 20 years old. Saying usa over and over like a moronic cheer leader doesn't make the USA the best. We have our fair share of great boxers and so do other counties. It's a world wide sport now and good boxers might come from anywhere in the world.

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            • Irony123
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              #26
              Originally posted by The Big Dunn
              Floyd is a more defensive fighter and has a 5 in reach advantage over Salido that would allow him to fight more on the outside, where Loma has a reach 2 inches shorter than Salido. SO maybe it is different.

              Yes, it is likely Loma destroys him although IMO Loma's style is tough against larger men. he needs to make some tweaks to it. That said, I picked him over Salido in the rematch and would expect a lopsided UD or making him quit on his stool.

              The bottom line is the comparison you are making is invalid because of age.
              It isn't valid based on age but is valid based on Pro boxing experience... I don't think I need to tell you that there are much worse comparisons on this website.

              Also you can't really compare what Lomachenko is doing to any pro of the past. Very few did what he did in the amateurs (2 golds and only 1 loss in 396 fights), and none took the route that he took as a pro... i.e. fighting ranked contenders from his first fight beating 6 or 7 current or past world champions in 12 fights. Winning belts in 3 divisions in 12 fights. Moving up to the higher division and taking on the number 1 or 2 guy in the division above without a warmup in said division.

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              • Irony123
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                #27
                Originally posted by uppercut510
                loma just lost the fight man get over it, hes still a very good fighter with more time to do great things
                I have no issues with that loss at all, it was a great fight, great experience for Lomachenko. My point was that Salido in a 2nd pro fight would be a tough fight for just about anyone and it doesn't make sense how some people are defining Loma's career based on that loss.

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                • The Big Dunn
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Irony123
                  It isn't valid based on age but is valid based on Pro boxing experience... I don't think I need to tell you that there are much worse comparisons on this website.

                  Also you can't really compare what Lomachenko is doing to any pro of the past. Very few did what he did in the amateurs (2 golds and only 1 loss in 396 fights), and none took the route that he took as a pro... i.e. fighting ranked contenders from his first fight beating 6 or 7 current or past world champions in 12 fights. Winning belts in 3 divisions in 12 fights. Moving up to the higher division and taking on the number 1 or 2 guy in the division above without a warmup in said division.
                  Actually, yours is as bad as any of those because just like them you are only posting this out of anger.

                  Loma lost to Salido. It doesn't mean he isn't one of, if not the best, in the world right now. It also is fair for people to factor in the loss in how they evaluate him.

                  Yes I can compare. Loma made the choice to remain an amateur in part because his federation compensates amateur boxers. So he could work and train and get some money.

                  If I am correct, The US and Mexico, for example, don't financially support their amateur boxers, so amateurs have to make the choice to turn pro much earlier.

                  Loma also got a salary and insurance in the AIBA WSBB series, thus allowing him to get pro experience but it not count on his official record.

                  Respectfully, you not pointing all this out wreaks of having an agenda, but maybe you just didn't know.

                  Floyd fought Corrales, Castillo and Hernandez, all top in their division, while under 25. Again, if I used this as the standard Loma couldn't meet it.

                  Loma is a great boxer without question. However he is 12-1 at 30 years old. Let's just enjoy him and talk about him being great and not ruin it with ridiculous comparisons.
                  Last edited by The Big Dunn; 05-15-2018, 02:08 PM.

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                  • sbbigmike
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                    #29
                    130 Floyd had dynamite in his hands not that slappy shyt loma does,.....Also let's not pretend salido is a world beater fmj would never lose to a fighter with 5 losees, let alone about 15...
                    Last edited by sbbigmike; 05-15-2018, 02:19 PM.

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                      #30
                      Originally posted by uppercut510
                      loma just lost the fight man get over it, hes still a very good fighter with more time to do great things
                      This...He a good lil exciting fighter

                      Given Salido and Linares he may be short of the A level... for now

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