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  • BigZ44
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    #11
    All the people that still bring up Lomachenko's loss to Salido thinking it validates some argument of him not being that good are ****ing idiots. With that being said, of course that version of Salido would beat Mayweather in his 2nd pro fight. The situation's are not comparable, Mayweather didn't have 400 amateur fights or whatever it was that Loma had, this scenario is completely unfair to Mayweather here. People just need to stop with all the comparison BS, it gets ****ing tiring

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    • Real King Kong
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      #12
      not a fair comparison at all...but Floyd had just as close a fight with Castillo in his 28th pro fight when he was 25yrs old.

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        #13
        Originally posted by The Big Dunn
        He was 25, had almost 400 amateur fights and 6 "quasi" (no headgear but called amateur) pro fights in the WSBB series. You can't just leave this out of the equation.

        Can't we just admit that Loma looked great but that any comparisons to Floyd regarding "# of fights to win world titles" is invalid because of age and experience?

        Put it this way-If we asked who was better based on age of 1st world title or does loma have a performance at 24 that was better than Floyd he'd lose everytime for the same reason-age.

        There is this fascination with some of you guys comparing him to Floyd. You guys have spent 10 years downplaying every single win Floyd has, every single accomplishment yet now are elevating them so you can make Loma look better.

        Come on dude. Isn't there any other way for some of you to judge Loma without using Floyd to do it?

        As to this thread: 19 year old floyd that had his 2nd pro fight wouldn't beat Salido. 25 year old Floyd, the age of Loma's 2nd pro fight, would embarrass him.

        On the other side, 19 year old Loma would Lose to Salido far worse than 25 year old Loma did.
        Look i am not discrediting Floyd, i just find it crazy how some posters think Floyd would beat Salido in his 2nd pro fight... by KO never the less.

        a 19 year old Loma would lose even worse to Salido but no different than a 19 year old Floyd.

        A 26 year old Loma who would have started his pro career after his 1st gold and had 20+ pro fights would also destroy Salido just like Floyd would at 26 at 20+ fights.

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          #14
          Floyd gets worked over and then cries like a b!tch about the judges and ref. of course we know he would never have had the balls to do that to begin with.

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          • Irony123
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            #15
            Originally posted by BigZ44
            All the people that still bring up Lomachenko's loss to Salido thinking it validates some argument of him not being that good are ****ing idiots. With that being said, of course that version of Salido would beat Mayweather in his 2nd pro fight. The situation's are not comparable, Mayweather didn't have 400 amateur fights or whatever it was that Loma had, this scenario is completely unfair to Mayweather here. People just need to stop with all the comparison BS, it gets ****ing tiring
            not a fair comparison but did you see the poll results?

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            • mcdonalds
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              #16
              Originally posted by Irony123
              Don't stray from the argument... 2nd pro fight is 2nd pro fight
              26 years old is 26 years old

              2 olympic gold medals is 2 olympic gold medals

              Best amateur ever is still best amateur ever

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              • Johnwoo8686
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                #17
                Originally posted by The Big Dunn
                He was 25, had almost 400 amateur fights and 6 "quasi" (no headgear but called amateur) pro fights in the WSBB series. You can't just leave this out of the equation.

                Can't we just admit that Loma looked great but that any comparisons to Floyd regarding "# of fights to win world titles" is invalid because of age and experience?

                Put it this way-If we asked who was better based on age of 1st world title or does loma have a performance at 24 that was better than Floyd he'd lose everytime for the same reason-age.

                There is this fascination with some of you guys comparing him to Floyd. You guys have spent 10 years downplaying every single win Floyd has, every single accomplishment yet now are elevating them so you can make Loma look better.

                Come on dude. Isn't there any other way for some of you to judge Loma without using Floyd to do it?

                As to this thread: 19 year old floyd that had his 2nd pro fight wouldn't beat Salido. 25 year old Floyd, the age of Loma's 2nd pro fight, would embarrass him.

                On the other side, 19 year old Loma would Lose to Salido far worse than 25 year old Loma did.
                Brilliant post. Just like people spent 6 years holding Pacquiao to a lower standard and Floyd to a higher standard then tried to make them seem like equals until they got into the ring together and we all found out they weren't equals. It's strange how people try so hard to denigrate Floyd and then elevate him at the same time to make other fighters look better.

                I recall after the McGregor fight people saying things online like "We all know Floyd wouldn't last 30 seconds against Conor in the cage. Conor went ten round with one of the greatest of all time!!" See how these people tried to throw shade at Mayweather and then build him up at the same time to make McGregor look better for getting his ass kicked? Somehow they forgot that Floyd was 40 years old, physically smaller, and had been retired for two years. It's pathetic and shows how pathological people are in their hate.

                As for the Loma/Salido and Mayweather/Salido comparisons, you said everything that needed to be said.

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                • Irony123
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by mcdonalds
                  26 years old is 26 years old

                  2 olympic gold medals is 2 olympic gold medals

                  Best amateur ever is still the best amateur ever

                  so how many great amateures beat Salido like fighters in their 2nd pro fight... how many even attempted to take on such a fighter?

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                  • BigZ44
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Irony123
                    not a fair comparison but did you see the poll results?
                    It's just fanboys voting for the guys they like. There is no way the Floyd Mayweather from 1996 would beat the Salido that beat Loma. And that is not some criticism as Mayweather, there's probably no fighter in the history of the 126 lb division that would beat that Salido in their 2nd fight. Lomachenko only came close because he is probably the greatest amateur fighter of all time.

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                    • Irony123
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by BigZ44
                      It's just fanboys voting for the guys they like. There is no way the Floyd Mayweather from 1996 would beat the Salido that beat Loma. And that is not some criticism as Mayweather, there's probably no fighter in the history of the 126 lb division that would beat that Salido in their 2nd fight. Lomachenko only came close because he is probably the greatest amateur fighter of all time.
                      I agree but that was my point exactly, to be fair when i posted this thread i knew i would get this kind of response i just wanted to see who would vote with their brain and who will vote with their fanboyism. I have no illusions that a 19 year old Lomachenko would do worse than the 26 year old version, just like i think that a 26 year old lomachenko would beat salido from pillar to post if he was a 20+ fight pro vetern who decided to turn pro after his 1st gold.

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