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  • #11
    Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
    The money is there for big signings for sure. I'm just a little sceptical when it comes to Hearn. I don't even think his UK roster is all that great tbh.
    I think Hearn's skill has always been more with setting up competitive or interesting fights or just fights people wanna see then with signing talent. To me Hearn makes the best fights so yea I wouldn't really disagree he might not have the P4P best roster.

    I do think he's gonna need some star power with his US roster doe cuz American fans need the flashy name to come out for a show. Otherwise he needs a plan to turn US fans into UK fans with that UK vibe of a night out on the town to get f#cked up & watch some fighting. And I think the flashy names angle is an easier thing to manage than to alter the base of the American boxing fan or to create these new UK-like US fans who just wanna get lit & have fun.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Eff Pandas View Post
      Realistically Hearn sucks at his job if thats the case. And I don't think Hearn sucks at his job at all. I think he's one of the best at his job.

      He's already pulled Danny Jacobs & Khan from PBC. I have no reason to believe he can't pull 3ish guys from the Spence, Charlo 1, Charlo 2, Wilder, Thurman, LSC, Tank (when he becomes a free agent), Derevyanchenko (not sure if he's with a promoter or not, but he's PBC/Haymon), Hurd (not sure if he's a free agent or not either tbh) or Broner crowd.

      And after that there are probably 20-30 guys underneath these guys who could be co-main caliber guys & main event guys within the next 12-24mos probably if moved correctly.

      And after that there are maybe 40-50 solid to great prospects to pick & choose from.

      Take 3-4 guys from that top tier. Give me 8-10 guys from that middle tier & give me 16-19 bottom tier guys & we got a 30 man new roster to add to what he gots + flip guys from the US to the UK at times/when needed or flip guys from the UK to the US at times/when needed.

      Some of you mfers are nuts. Some big move gets made for a guy like Hearn or Arum with the ESPN deal recently & you f#cking dummies think its a bad thing somehow lmfao. Hearn is ABOUT TO BE F#CKING KILLING IT. And fighters who turn him down will likely regret it cuz as of right now there has never been a better time to be with Eddie Hearn.
      Khan is pretty much done at this level and was inactive pretty much signed for the Brook fight and he is going to be fighting exclusively in the uk

      When has Matchroom poached a top fighter from anyone? They couldn't even get Fury and they're based in UK it's delusional to think they will poach top fighters in the us when they have zero experience in the market

      And no one said it's a bad thing he is expanding in the US i dont what the **** you're going on about in the last paragraph

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      • #13
        I'd pick up Joey Spencer and Lil BHop

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Phenom View Post
          Khan is pretty much done at this level and was inactive pretty much signed for the Brook fight and he is going to be fighting exclusively in the uk

          When has Matchroom poached a top fighter from anyone? They couldn't even get Fury and they're based in UK it's delusional to think they will poach top fighters in the us when they have zero experience in the market

          And no one said it's a bad thing he is expanding in the US i dont what the **** you're going on about in the last paragraph
          This pretty much sums it up. We’ve been talking about Hearn signing fighters and doing big things but all we keep getting is announcements and no fighters. Poaching guys like Danny Jacobs Jarell Miller and An inactive Khan just doesn’t impress me. When he starts putting on better fights that’s when I’ll give him his props. So far all we’ve gotten is a bunch of loud mouth and mismatch boring fights.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Phenom View Post
            Khan is pretty much done at this level and was inactive pretty much signed for the Brook fight and he is going to be fighting exclusively in the uk
            Maybe. But he sells tickets & is a draw. Everybody doesn't gotta be in the height of their popularity to make sense or to be adding value or taking away value.

            When has Matchroom poached a top fighter from anyone?
            You don't gotta poach free agents.

            it's delusional to think they will poach top fighters in the us when they have zero experience in the market
            Again you don't gotta poach free agents. I swear half of this site still thinks Haymon is a promoter. He isn't. A guy can have a relationship with Haymon & Hearn. If thats the case who's being poached?

            And no one said it's a bad thing he is expanding in the US i dont what the **** you're going on about in the last paragraph
            I was going on about the sky is always f#cking falling to some of you guys. Hearn just hit the lotto with this deal. What he makes of it is still to see, but he's in a fantastic position right now that any promoter should be envious of. Yet so many mfers still talking about he can't do this or that won't work or blah blah blah always on some negative Nancy bs.

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            • #16
              I definitely think Hearn will get some Haymon guys and I really think you're going to see him raid all the top amateur systems like he was doing in the UK. Didn't he grab almost all of team GB from the last olympics? He's got ****en prospects galore and even went and got Yeleussinov. Think he's gonna do a lot more of that, grabbing the top amateur's from all over the world now. What I personally would really like to see him do, is grab a lot of the top fighters from different parts of the world that don't have a huge profile. One thing that is easier to do in the US than UK is to build up international fighters to stardom. Hearn should be scooping up guys like Dogboe, Makabu, Rungvisai, Inoue, Nietes, Gassiev (he already has Bivol right?), Vlasov, Dorticos, Uzcategui, Barroso, Marriaga, Nery, Berchelt, Relikh, Briedis etc.
              Last edited by BigZ44; 05-10-2018, 10:34 PM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by BigZ44 View Post
                I definitely think Hearn will get some Haymon guys and I really think you're going to see him raid all the top amateur systems like he was doing in the UK. Didn't he grab almost all of team GB from the last olympics? He's got ****en prospects galore and even went and got Yeleussinov. Think he's gonna do a lot more of that, grabbing the top amateur's from all over the world now. What I personally would really like to see him do, is grab a lot of the top fighters from different parts of the world that don't have a huge profile. One thing that is easier to do in the US than UK is to build up international fighters to stardom. Hearn should be scooping up guys like Dogboe, Makabu, Rungvisai, Inoue, Nietes, Gassiev (he already has Bivol right?), Vlasov, Dorticos, Uzcategui, Nery, Berchelt, Relikh, Briedis etc.
                International signings is a good idea. Bivol is with Duva. Derevyanchenko would be a good idea.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Mammoth View Post
                  International signings is a good idea. Bivol is with Duva. Derevyanchenko would be a good idea.
                  Oh yes, don't know how I forgot that. Remembered him being on that Matchroom card in Monaco and screwed up. Derevyanchenko is a good call

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                  • #19
                    Hmmmm......

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                    • #20
                      Get Rod Salka in early doors and the rest will follow.

                      Who else you got? J’Leon Love. Get him in. Maybe Emmanuel Augustus.

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